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From:
Andy George [DPMC]
To:
Tracey McIntosh; s9(2)(a)
Cc:
Rachel Sutherland [DPMC]
Subject:
Re: HWT Centre Governance Board meeting - Weds 28 February
Date:
Tuesday, 20 February 2024 2:57:38 pm
Attachments:
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Kia ora Board Members,
For our meeting next week, I need to give you a heads up that we will unfortunately need
to have some significant discussions about both (i) the amount of research funding (not the
operating funding that covers staff) available to the Centre for this year and (ii) the
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structure of the way that the Centre is run. 
We will have senior representatives from DPMC and the University with us for part of the
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meeting to be in these discussions and will work up an agenda to focus on both these
aspects.
You will appreciate the wider environment that we are operating in at the moment and that
there are sensitivities to both of these aspects. s9(2)(a)  is being briefed by the University
this afternoon. Apologies that I'm not able to provide the full details at this stage, but we
will go through all of the situation in person at our meeting next week and I know we'll
have everyone's support in collectively working through how we can best support the
Centre.
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In the meantime, I'd be grateful if you please do not share any of this information beyond
just the members of the Board at this stage.
I look forward to seeing you all next Wednesday.
Ngā manaakitanga, Andy
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To: Tracey McIntosh s9(2)(a)
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Subject: HWT Centre Governance Board meeting - Weds 28 February
 
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Kia ora koutou,
 
I reminder that our next in-person Board meeting is scheduled for 10am-3pm on Wednesday 28
February at Victoria University of Wellington (room details to follow).
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We are working on finalising the agenda for the day and will circulate this in the few days.
 
Ngā manaakitanga, Andy
 


Andy George
Counter-Terrorism Strategic Coordinator
National Security Group
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From:
Andy George [DPMC]
To:
Tracey McIntosh
Cc:
Bridget White [DPMC]
Subject:
HWT budget changes summary
Date:
Wednesday, 29 May 2024 1:31:00 pm
Attachments:
20240530 HWT budget changes summary - EMBARGOED(4883911.1).docx
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[IN-CONFIDENCE]
Kia ora Tracey,
 
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Thank you for your time in meeting with Bridget. The one-page summary of Budget decisions,
embargoed from further sharing until 2pm tomorrow, is attached.
 
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We’ll speak tomorrow afternoon, but in the meantime of course feel free to call if you need
anything.
 
Ngā manaakitanga, Andy
 
Andy George

Counter-Terrorism Strategic Coordinator
National Security Group
Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet
 
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EMBARGOED UNTIL 2.00PM 30 MAY 2024 
Budget 2024 decisions:  He Whenua Taurikura National Centre of 
Research Excellence 

Background 
He Whenua Taurikura is New Zealand’s National Centre for Research Excellence for Preventing 
and Countering Violent Extremism.  The Centre was  established in response to 
recommendation 14 of the Royal Commission of Inquiry report into the terrorist attack on 1982
Christchurch masjidain to “establish a programme to fund independent New Zealand-specific 
research on the causes of, and measures to prevent, violent extremism and terrorism”. 
It brings together research organisations and institutes, civil society organisations, and 
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government to research preventing and countering violent extremism, with a focus on 
understanding diversity and promoting social cohesion. 
The Centre is hosted by Te Herenga Waka | Victoria University of Wellington and operates 
independently of Government, funded  and supported through  a charitable trust. A 
Governance Board of trustees oversees the Centre’s work. 
All of the funding to date for the Centre has been provided by the Department of the Prime 
Minister and Cabinet (DPMC), through the charitable trust. 
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Budget decisions announced on 30 May 2024 
The previously planned ongoing Government funding for the Centre was $1,325,000 per year. 
This was the same as the funding provided to the Centre for the 2024 academic year. 
In the Government Budget 24 decisions announced on 30 May 2024, the Centre’s future 
funding has been reduced to $500,000 per year
. This remaining funding can be used for the 
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full range of functions associated with the Centre, including to continue to fund  future 
research projects and student scholarships. 
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This  change in funding will take effect from the start of the 2025 academic year.  Existing 
funding for the Centre for the current 2024 academic year is not affected

Separately, DPMC has previously informed the Governance Board that DPMC wil  not provide 
any further funding for the costs of maintaining the charitable trust. The charitable trust has 
under 
sufficient funding to remain in operation and to run the Governance Board until the end of 
2024. This does not directly affect any aspect of the funding or operation of the Centre. 
Next steps 
The Centre’s Governance Board wil  work with the Centre Director, VUW and DPMC to consider 
the implications of the changes to funding and options for a future operating model. 
Any new operating model wil  need to be in place for the start of the 2025 academic year. 
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Final decisions of the use of DPMC funding lie with the Secretary (Chief Executive) of DPMC. 
Using the available funding to support research and scholarships on preventing and 
countering violent extremism wil  remain a priority. 
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From:
Rachel Sutherland [DPMC]
To:
Tracey McIntosh
Subject:
Budget 24: Next steps
Date:
Wednesday, 12 June 2024 4:12:00 pm
Attachments:
2024-06-12 Letter HWT operating model(4890874.1).pdf
20240530 HWT budget changes summary - EMBARGOED(4883911.1).docx
20240612 Appendix B HWT Centre operating model analysis(4890435.1).docx
[IN-CONFIDENCE]
Kia ora Tracey
Please find attached a letter from Bridget White (Executive Director, NSG) seeking the Board’s 1982
input into thinking about options for a viable future operating model for research and
scholarships on preventing and countering violent extremism from the 2025 academic (calendar)
year onwards.
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Please don’t hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.
 

Rachel
 
Rachel Sutherland (she/her)        
Programme Manager
National Security Group
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Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet
[email address]
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12 June 2024 
 
 
 
Tracey McIntosh (acting chair) 
Board of He Whenua Taurikura Trust 
 
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Tēnā koe Tracey 
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I  am  writing  as  a  follow  up  to  the  recent  Government  Budget  24  decision,  which  reduced  the 
funding for the He Whenua Taurikura National Centre for Research Excellence to $500,000 per 
year. A copy of the summary of that decision is attached as Appendix A.  
DPMC recognises that this is a very significant change in the operating context for the Centre and 
will have major implications for the Centre’s work for 2025 and beyond.  
Given this, I would like to propose that as a matter of urgency the Trust Board provide DPMC with 
advice  on  future  operating  models.  In  particular,  DPMC  is  considering  how  the  $500,000  of 
available  funding  can  be  most  productively  used  to  support  research  and  scholarships  on 
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preventing and countering violent extremism from the 2025 academic (calendar) year onwards. 
There are a range of potential options for a future operating model and DPMC has developed an 
initial set of these for your consideration and discussion (attached as Appendix B). As DPMC’s 
key partner in this work, I am now seeking the Board’s input and advice on these and any other 
options that you may consider to be viable.  
It is important to note that final decisions regarding the use of this funding appropriation from 2025 
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onwards  will  rest  with  the  Secretary  (Chief  Executive)  of  DPMC.  The  overarching  priority  in 
making these decisions wil  be ensuring that a sustainable operating model is established that is 
as effective and efficient as possible in delivering the intent of the Royal Commission of Inquiry’s 
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Recommendation 14.  
The  extent  to  which  the  operating  model  can  effectively  and  efficiently  provide  contestable 
research grants to New Zealand academics and researchers on the causes of, and measures to 
prevent, violent extremism and terrorism wil  therefore be a key consideration.  
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Additionally, the benefits of a Master’s Scholarship programme have been demonstrated since 
the first round of this was initiated in 2021. Continuing this in an effective and efficient manner will 
therefore also be a key consideration. 
Certainty for all stakeholders, in particular the Centre Director and her staff, is important as we 
work through this process. I therefore ask that the Board provide me with its advice by 9 August 
to enable timely decisions to be made and any transition arrangements that are required to be 
put in place as soon as possible. 
 
 
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Thank you for your collective ongoing work to support the Centre. I and my staff are available at 
any time if you wish to discuss operating model options or any other aspect of this letter. 
 
 
Ngā mihi nui 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bridget White 
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APPENDIX A
Budget 2024 decisions:  He Whenua Taurikura National Centre of 
Research Excellence 

Background 
He Whenua Taurikura is New Zealand’s National Centre for Research Excellence for Preventing 
and  Countering  Violent  Extremism.  The  Centre  was  established  in  response  to 
recommendation 14 of the Royal Commission of Inquiry report into the terrorist attack on 
Christchurch masjidain to “establish a programme to fund independent New Zealand-specific 1982
research on the causes of, and measures to prevent, violent extremism and terrorism”. 
It  brings  together  research  organisations  and  institutes,  civil  society  organisations,  and 
government  to  research  preventing  and  countering  violent  extremism,  with  a  focus  on 
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understanding diversity and promoting social cohesion. 
The Centre  is hosted by Te Herenga Waka  | Victoria University of Wellington and  operates 
independently  of  Government,  funded  and  supported  through  a  charitable  trust.  A 
Governance Board of trustees oversees the Centre’s work. 
All of the funding to date for the Centre has been provided by the Department of the Prime 
Minister and Cabinet (DPMC), through the charitable trust. 
Budget decisions announced on 30 May 2024  Information 
The previously planned ongoing Government funding for the Centre was $1,325,000 per year. 
This was the same as the funding provided to the Centre for the 2024 academic year. 
In the Government Budget 24 decisions announced on 30 May 2024,  the Centre’s future 
funding has been reduced to $500,000 per year
. This remaining funding can be used for the 
full  range  of  functions  associated  with  the  Centre,  including  to  continue  to  fund  future 
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research projects and student scholarships. 
This change  in  funding will  take  effect from  the  start of  the  2025  academic  year.  Existing 
the 
funding for the Centre for the current 2024 academic year is not affected
Separately, DPMC has previously informed the Governance Board that DPMC will not provide 
any further funding for the costs of maintaining the charitable trust. The charitable trust has 
sufficient funding to remain in operation and to run the Governance Board until the end of 
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2024. This does not directly affect any aspect of the funding or operation of the Centre. 
Next steps 
The Centre’s Governance Board will work with the Centre Director, VUW and DPMC to consider 
the implications of the changes to funding and options for a future operating model. 
Any new operating model will need to be in place for the start of the 2025 academic year. 
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Final decisions of the use of DPMC funding lie with the Secretary (Chief Executive) of DPMC. 
Using  the  available  funding  to  support  research  and  scholarships  on  preventing  and 
countering violent extremism will remain a priority. 


Appendix B: Initial future operating model options for analysis 
ABILITY TO DELIVER KEY PURPOSES 
CONTESTABLE 
STUDENT 
OPTION 
PROS 
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RESEARCH FUNDING  SCHOLARSHIPS 
BOARD COMMENTS (INCLUDING ON COST-EFFECTIVENESS) 
1  Maintain current Centre-based research model 
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No change to current Centre operating model. 
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2  Research / scholarship programme – administered by Centre 
• 
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Refocus the HWT Centre to soley focus on delivering and administering a  • 
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research and scholarship grants programme, to support and enable 
external research through contestable funding. 
3  Research / scholarship programme – administered by HWT Trust 
• 
• 
Disestablish the HWT Centre in its current form. Maintain the HWT Trust 
• 
• 
to directly deliver and administer a research and scholarship grants 
programme. 
4  Research / scholarship programme – administered elsewhere 
• 
• 
outside government2 
• 
• 
Disestablish the HWT Centre in its current form. Fund an existing 
research facility / organisation with expertise in funding administration to 
deliver a research and scholarship grants programme. 
5  Research / scholarship programme – administered by an 
• 
• 
appropriate Government agency
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• 
Disestablish the HWT Centre in its current form. Deliver a research and 
scholarship grants programme directly through an approriate government 
agency. 
6  Other operating model 
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1 The key purposes focused on by DPMC for funding any future operating model are effectively and efficiently delivering contestable research funding, as recommended by the Royal Commission of Inquiry, and student (likely primarily Master’s) scholarship funding. These are the first and third of 
the nine purposes of the current HWT Trust (and hence of the current HWT Centre), which was established to fund, facilitate and promote research into the prevention and countering of violent extremism in New Zealand by: 
(a)
establishing and administering one or more contestable research funds to support New Zealand-specific research on the causes of, and measures to prevent, terrorism and violent extremism;
(b)
providing support (including but not limited to funding) to civil society and community organisations for projects relating to researching or improving public understanding in New Zealand of preventing and countering violent extremism;
(c)
establishing scholarships to incentivise continued research into the prevention and countering of violent extremism in New Zealand;
(d)
establishing a public facing website to educate and facilitate collaboration in the field of the prevention and countering of violent extremism in New Zealand;
(e)
creating a policy briefs series based on New Zealand research on preventing and countering violent extremism;
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(f)
creating channels for proactive information sharing in the field of the prevention and countering of violent extremism in New Zealand;
(g)
providing and facilitating advice to government and other groups and organisations on preventing and countering violent extremism in New Zealand;
(h)
holding and supporting events and workshops relating to the prevention and countering of violent extremism in New Zealand, including the annual He Whenua Taurikura hui; and
(i)
creating and administering secondment opportunities for practitioners and researchers to spend time in government or in research/civil society organisations and institutes to enable experiential learning into the prevention and countering of violent extremism in New Zealand.
DPMC’s initial assessment is that the other seven current purposes would be unlikely to be met to a significant level by any of the future operating model options with only $500k per annum and would hence not be primary focus areas. However, some of these other aspects – such as (e) creating 
a policy briefs series, and (g) providing and facilitating advice to government and other group / organisations – could potentially be tied to the research and scholarships components and stil  be achieved to some level. DPMC would welcome the Board’s advice on this.
2 For example – a University research office, the Royal Society of New Zealand (similar to the Marsden Fund), s9(2)(a)
, or a research-focused NGO. Note: none of these organisations has been approached or assessed to be feasible. They are conceptual examples. 
3 Potentially DPMC or the Department of Internal Affairs (DIA), but more likely an agency with experience in administering research funding such as the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) or the Tertiary Education Commission (TEC). 

From:
Rachel Sutherland [DPMC]
To:
Tracey McIntosh
Subject:
RE: Feedback on proposed Centre Models
Date:
Wednesday, 21 August 2024 3:15:00 pm
Thanks Tracey
 
From: Tracey McIntosh s9(2)(a)

Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2024 2:42 PM
To: Rachel Sutherland [DPMC] <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Feedback on proposed Centre Models
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Kia ora Rachel,
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That is correct. I aim to get that advice to you by the 30th of August. I have a few further
discussions to have and then to seek general agreement by the Board.
Mauri ora,
Tracey
 
Tracey McIntosh, Professor in Indigenous Studies| 
Wānanga o Waipapa | Faculty of Arts University of Auckland
s9(2)(a)
| Chief Science Advisor, Ministry of Social Development
Commissioner, Criminal Cases Review Commission
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Co-Editor, AlterNative:​An International Journal Of Indigenous  Peoples
 
 
 
From: Rachel Sutherland [DPMC] <[email address]>
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Date: Wednesday, 21 August 2024 at 1:30 PM
To: Tracey McIntosh s9(2)(a)
Subject: Re: Feedback on proposed Centre Models
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Tēna kōe Tracey
Just further to our emails below, I wanted to confirm that we’ll receive some advice
from the board by the end of August?  
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Rachel 
From: Tracey McIntosh s9(2)(a)
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2024 10:48:58 AM
To: Rachel Sutherland [DPMC] <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Feedback on proposed Centre Models
 
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Kia ora Rachel,
The Board has a preference for Option 2 with a greater discussion needed on what this
could look like in practice.
Mauri ora,
Tracey

 
Tracey McIntosh, Professor in Indigenous Studies| 
Wānanga o Waipapa | Faculty of Arts University of Auckland
s9(2)(a)
| Chief Science Advisor, Ministry of Social Development
Commissioner, Criminal Cases Review Commission
Co-Editor, AlterNative:​An International Journal Of Indigenous  Peoples
 
 
 
From: Rachel Sutherland [DPMC] <[email address]>
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Date: Wednesday, 7 August 2024 at 10:42 AM
To: Tracey McIntosh <s9(2)(a)
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Subject: RE: Feedback on proposed Centre Models
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Kia ora Tracey
Thanks for this.  I understand that you still have some work to do on this advice, and later this
month will be fine.
In the meantime, if the Board has a preferred option, it would be helpful to know  this in advance
so we can commence work in alignment with the Board
 
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Rachel
 
From: Tracey McIntosh s9(2)(a)

Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2024 10:19 AM
To: Rachel Sutherland [DPMC] <[email address]>
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Subject: Feedback on proposed Centre Models
 
Kia ora Rachel,
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Ngā mihi ki a koe.
 
I recognise that the Bridget was hoping that the Board would give some feedback on the
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proposed Centre models by August 8. The Board is asking that we provide feedback by the
end of the month as it will allow us to incorporate feedback from the Director, the
university and the centre staff in terms of effective proposed change in light of current
funding.
 
Mauri ora,
Tracey
 
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Tracey McIntosh, Professor in Indigenous Studies| 
Wānanga o Waipapa | Faculty of Arts University of Auckland
s9(2)(a)
 Chief Science Advisor, Ministry of Social Development
Commissioner, Criminal Cases Review Commission
Co-Editor, AlterNative:​An International Journal Of Indigenous  Peoples
 

From:
Tracey McIntosh
To:
Rachel Sutherland [DPMC]
Subject:
Re advice on operating models HWT
Date:
Friday, 30 August 2024 8:21:11 am
Attachments:
Advice on operating models.docx
Kia ora Rachel,
Please see attached the Board’s comments and advice on future operating models for
HWT.
 
Mauri ora,
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Tracey
 
Tracey McIntosh, Professor in Indigenous Studies| 
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Wānanga o Waipapa | Faculty of Arts University of Auckland
s9(2)(a)
 | Chief Science Advisor, Ministry of Social Development
Commissioner, Criminal Cases Review Commission
Co-Editor, AlterNative:​An International Journal Of Indigenous  Peoples
 
 
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29 August 2024 
 
Tēnā koe Bridget, 
 
 
Following your request for the He Whenua Taurikura  Trust to provide advice on future 
operating models for the He Whenua Taurikura (HWT) National Centre of Research 
Excellence currently hosted by Victoria University of Wellington Te Herenga Waka 
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please find below our comments and advice. 
 
1.  On receipt of your letter the Board has had a number of meetings to discuss the 
proposed operating models  in light of the funding cuts and to discuss the future 
of the Centre. The Board has also met with the Director and with the kaimahi of 
the Centre. The Acting Chair has had additional discussions with the Director, 
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individual meetings with Board members and with the Vice-Provost ( Research) 
Professor Margaret Hyland of the host university. The Acting Chair also looked at 
models used by other Centres with modest budgets and small FTE. This  informs 
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the advice given. 
2.  Due to the potential perceived conflict of interest board member Andy George 
has had a limited involvement and has only attended one meeting where these 
issues were discussed. Further to this Andy George has not contributed to or 
been involved in the comments and advice here given. 
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3.  The Board acknowledges and honours the memory of the 51 shuhada, the 40 
individuals who suffered gun injury and the many thousands of people impacted 
in New Zealand and across the world in the terrorist attack on the Al Noor 
Mosque and Linwood Islamic Centre on March 15, 2019. This profound loss, 
through ideological and terrorist violence, continues to resonate strongly here 
and abroad. Following the attack there has been a call to action. 
4.  We recognise that the Centre was established in response to recommendation 
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madjidain. This recommendation called for the establishment of a programme to 
fund independent New Zealand specific research on the causes of, and 
measures to prevent, violent extremism and terrorism. 

5.  The Board expresses its disappointment that the scope and intent of the 
recommendations of the Royal Commission have not been fully realised which 
makes the work of the Centre even more critical. 
6.  The Board recognises that the kaupapa  of the Centre to support, encourage and 
promote research on preventing and countering violent extremism with a focus 
on understanding diversity and promoting social cohesion  is work of national 
importance. 
7.  The Board endorses the current positioning of the Centre as a Te Tiriti led 
organisation and believe this is important to maintain into the future. It is a 
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distinctive feature of Aotearoa New Zealand and can be an important vehicle to 
realise the aspirations of a flourishing land of peace and at peace. 
8.  We recognise the challenges that occur in the establishment phase of a Centre 
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and the many learnings that have been captured at the funder (DPMC), Board 
and Centre level. These learnings need to inform the future of the Centre so that 
it can continue to prosper and grow. Challenges  experienced by He Whenua 
Taurikura are not novel to a new organisation, indeed they are a common feature 
of all new research entities. However, it is recognised that there have been 
particular  challenges that the Centre, the Board and DPMC have faced that have 
made it more difficult for the centre to fully undertake its work. The lack of 
certainty has also taken a considerable toll. 
9.  The Board endorses the work and commitment of the Centre leadership and 
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kaimahi who have worked tirelessly to realise the aspirations of the Centre and 
who have expressed their deep commitment and desire to continue and expand 
the work programme even with the huge funding cuts. 
10. There is an openness amongst the kaimahi to extend their work to ensure that 
the needs of all stakeholders are understood and responded to. The broad 
research area is complex and the challenges are real for a small and new 
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11. The significance of the funding cuts signalled in Budget 2024 have added further 
pressure. The level of the cuts, we would  argue,  are nearly unprecedented for a 
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research centre. Earlier signalled cuts, notification of the disestablishment of the 
Trust/Board plus the Budget announcement cuts has meant that the centre has 
lost 75% of its funding. Short of closing down a research centre by cutting all 
funding this is as drastic as it can get. Issues of sustainability must be addressed 
and commitment to the kaupapa must be made by the funder. 
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12. The Board strongly believes that there needs to be some level of commitment 
beyond 2025 to HWT. We recognise the unique challenges this presents in terms 
of not knowing what future budget allocations might be but for the Centre to be 
able to attract external funding , for it to be able to further its reputation, and 
most importantly for the government to reiterate its commitment to communities 
most likely to be impacted by extremist violence this needs to occur. 
13. Internationally, the work that the centre is charged to undertake is seen as one of 
the top global research priorities. Foundational work undertaken by the Centre 
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New Zealand and that aligns with international research calls. 
14. We have already noted our belief in the importance of the continuation of the 
Centre’s work and so have sought to engage with the initial set of proposed 

models developed by DPMC (Appendix B). In considering all five proposed model 
we believe that Option 2 which looks at the research and scholarship programme 
being administered by the Centre is the one that should be considered and 
developed. Option 1 would be the preference if funding levels were higher but 
there is a recognition that the funding cuts demand refinement and necessitate a 
short, medium and long-term plan. 
15. Option 2 means there is a recognition that there is baseline funding in place to 
ensure the continuation of contracted roles (though the work programme is likely 
to need to be revised so that objectives are realised) and the prioritisation of 
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administering a  contestable research and scholarship programme. It is to be 
noted that in 2025 there are carry over funds that can be used to support ongoing 
activities of the Centre. 
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16. With the disestablishment of the Trust/Board this operating model is best 
supported by the Centre being hosted by Victoria University of Wellington Te 
Herenga Waka through a contract directly between DPMC and the University. 
This is a standard model that the university is very familiar with. The contractual 
arrangement will then be much simplified and will lead to a far greater clarity of 
responsibilities, accountabilities and reporting lines than is presently the case. It 
is also noted that the Centre, in keeping with other University centres, would also 
be seen as a facilitator and coordinator of research activity rather than be seen 
as solely  responsible for the majority of the delivery of the research.  
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17. Discussions between DPMC and the University should start immediately. 
18. Formal disestablishment of the Trust Board should be started immediately to 
ensure a smooth transition. 
19. The funding for 2025 and beyond will require a rethinking of FTE to align with 
budget. The Director’s position as the most expensive is likely to need a 
reduction of FTE but this detail needs to be determined when looking at the 
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future work programme under the new model. Work will need to be scaled down 
in line with the funding but also with an eye to the future where it could be scaled 
back up. Succession planning is important for any research  organisation as well 
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as  a focus on career progression. 
20. An Advisory Board should be appointed that can support the Centre in 
determining its strategic direction and meeting its objectives. It thinking about 
the composition of the advisory board it is imperative that there is community 
representation. There should also be members who have research expertise. 
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Māori representation should also make up the composition of the Advisory 
Group. While the advisory board would not be renumerated (as is common 
across university centres) expenses would need to be budgeted for. With a 
combination of online and in-person meetings these are likely to be modest. 
21. The outgoing Board believes that community representation continues to be 
crucial to the success of HWT. It is important for ensuring that HWT is 
community centred and community responsive. Already we have seen the work 
that HWT has done in increasing the capacity and diversity of the research 
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community and this must remain  to be seen as an important success factor of 
the centre. 
22.  Facilitation of research and increasing research collaboration are areas that the 
advisory board need to be able to give direction, advice and support for. 


23. Given the quantum of the funding there is concern on whether contestable  
funding will be of a level to ensure sufficient interest and quality of research 
proposals. It needs to be considered if Request for Proposal calls should be 
limited to one theme area each year determined by the research committee in 
consultation with stakeholders or if commissioning should be explored. 
24. The Board believes that Option 2 would allow the centre to refocus and refresh. 
The other options would not only be more expensive due to set-up costs and the 
pains of re-establishment but also would mean that the significant work that has 
been done and the achievements already made could be lost.  It is important to  1982
be conscious of the achievements and the outputs thus far. It is important to 
acknowledge new relationships that have been made. It is right also to  look at 
where lessons need to be learnt and  where new directions  can be mapped. 
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25. Most Board members sat on all or many of the meetings prior to the  setting up 
the Centre and we saw a demand for a new vison in thinking about preventing 
and countering extremism and associated violence and what work on social 
cohesion and inclusion could bring.  The path has not been smooth but this 
kaupapa is too important  to not try and ensure the continuation of HWT and to 
build on its foundations. 
 
 
 
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From:
Manisha Bhikha [DPMC]
To:
Tracey McIntosh
Cc:
Bridget White [DPMC]
Subject:
Letter to Chair of HWT Board of DPMC Decision
Date:
Wednesday, 16 October 2024 4:51:00 pm
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Tēnā koe Tracey,
 
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Please find attached a letter to you in your role as Chair of the He Whenua Taurikura Board on
the DPMC decision on funding of HWT Research Centre. Please share with the HWT Board.
 
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After Board review, please let us know how you’d like to proceed with next steps. In Andy and
Rachel’s absence I’m happy to be contacted anytime to discuss if needed.
 
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Professor Tracey MacIntosh 
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DPMC CE decision on resolution of HWT Trust Board 
Thank  you  for  the  Board’s  continued  support  for  the  He  Whenua  Taurikura  (HWT)  Research 
Centre and your patience as we sought Chief Executive decision on the future of the Department 
of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (DPMC) funding of the Centre. 
The preferred option proposed by the Board to DPMC was for a preventing and countering violent 
extremism  (PCVE)  research  and  scholarship  programme  administered  by  the  current  HWT 
Research Centre.  
We assess that this model is not the most effective and efficient use of the limited public funding 
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available to deliver high quality outputs from PCVE researchers across the country. The operating 
costs associated with running the National Research Centre means it is not feasible with the level 
of funding available. 
Following consideration of options, including those proposed by the Board, DPMC has decided 
to cease funding to the HWT Research Centre and all other direct DPMC support to the Centre 
will end on 31 December. 
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Consistent  with  the  Board  recommendation  to  use  the  Centre’s  underspend,  and  to  provide 
certainty  for  Centre  staff,  DPMC  will  work  directly  with  Victoria  University  to  establish  a  new 
contract to oversee the use of and deliverables from these funds until July 2025. 
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The Board members are now able to agree a resolution to dissolve the Trust and we will continue 
working together with you to progress this. 
All remaining Trust funds should be returned to DPMC, prior to the Trust being wound up. 
Once again, I thank you and the Board for your significant contributions to the development of the 
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Ngā manaakitanga 
 
 
 
 
 
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Kia ora koutou,
Please find attached the letter I received as Acting  Chair of the He Whenua Taurikura Trust
on the DPMC decision on funding of the HWT Research Centre. I recognise the need for all
parties to be informed including the Trustees (appointed by DPMC), the  Centre through the
Director and the University of Victoria through the Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Research).
 
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This letter will be a profound disappointment to all of us. The kaupapa of the centre is a
critical and important one and there should be pride in what has been achieved.
 
Mauri ora,
Tracey
 

Tracey McIntosh, Professor in Indigenous Studies| 
Wānanga o Waipapa | Faculty of Arts University of Auckland
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Subject: Request for brief meeting
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I shall be most grateful for a brief meeting  with you  or Bridget to clarify the options with
respect to the National Centre of Excellence for PCVE. I understand that Andy is away. 
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I envisage no more that 20 minutes, (whenever is convenient) since there is widespread concern
in not just our community but also others on the way forward.  
 
I am being asked by many in the media, some academics and also leaders of other communities.
As you know, this Centre was developed through extensive community consultation and it's
defunding has been without any  community comms.  
 
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