To answer your ‘firstly, why’ question –

Yes, a vaccine does NOT prevent you catching Covid
It also does not stop you spreading Covid
And it does not stop you getting sick

What the Pfizer-BioNTech trial showed was you are 20-times less likely to get a SERIOUS case of Covid (162 placebo cases to 8 vacc’d)
And ‘serious’ can lead to hospital, and to death

So I’m happy to not clog the health system, not over-work health professionals, and not die

NZ does not have Covid19 loose in the community – outbreaks are swiftly and effectively shut down – compare the US, Brazil, lots of others…

But, we must maintain basic precautions – wash hands, wear masks, social distancing

Stay safe
Allen

And, as to 'vaccination will not stop you from getting...' -

Disease does not know, cannot know you have taken preventive measures
They are simple biochemical machines

If only we could wear a sticker saying 'I got vacc'd', and that would fool them...

One more thing -
We do not have a "natural immune response" to Covid19

It is a novel virus, a new virus - we, our bodies have never seen it before
We are unprotected, and so need to 'train' our bodies to recognise and defeat this invader

"The infection fatality rate is not a fixed physical constant and it can vary substantially across locations, depending on the population structure, the case-mix of infected and deceased individuals and other, local factors" - John P A Ioannidis, Oct 2020

Never mind that some countries do not routinely test deaths for Covid. And some countries just flat out lie...

"[If] it does not stop contraction of the virus, then it is not a vaccine."

Rubbish - a vaccine enables the body to stop the virus proliferating in your body and causing the *disease* associated with the virus. A person who is immune to a disease caused by a virus (either through natural immunity or a vaccine) may still have the virus in their body.

Classic example are those who had chicken pox during childhood. The body defeated the disease (chicken pox) but the varicella virus is still lurking in your body and may cause shingles in later life.

You really are a bit confused.

Neither I or Allen Reynolds are "OIA Requests" of the Min of Health, just citizens commenting on your (unfounded) concerns. If you want to comment on the annotations we have made, you need to add an annotation yourself.

What you are currently doing is spam bombing the Ministry of Health OIA email channel with a series of emails that won't make the slightest bit of sense to them. They aren't required to monitor the FYI website, so are probably scratching their heads and wondering what you are on about.

And, by the way, (and to reiterate), a vaccine doesn't prevent a person getting a virus into their system. It helps prevent the person developing the *disease* caused by the virus..

To provide you with another example. Although not vaccines, modern treatments can prevent a person who has acquired the HIV virus from developing AIDS.

Can you not see the difference?

Oh! So you're both trolls. Thanks for clearing that up.

In my mind, it would make more sense to relate covid 19 vaccine to oh I don't know say measles or smallpox... When I take the measles/smallpox vaccine I don't expect to get the virus. When I take covid 19 vaccine I DON'T EXPECT TO GET THE VIRUS. It's not a vaccine. mRNA is experimental and this technology has been tried on animals, and in the animal studies done, all the animals died. So if you want to side with mass depopulation aka murder, then let that be on your conscience but remember, God knows all.

hello Tania, and Mr Rogers
just hoping to inform, to educate
and if not Tania, then others who read this…

until the MOH reply, I’ll be hand-washing, mask-wearing and social distancing
as well as location-recording and science-following

hey look! – early results from actual vaccinations:
large reductions in hospitalisations
as well as prevention of asymptomatic and symptomatic infections
‘just like it says on the tin’

Dr. David Martin, an outspoken critic of the mRNA vaccine, offered similar opinion.

“This is not a vaccine … using the term vaccine to sneak this thing under public health exemptions. This is mRNA packaged in a fat envelope that is delivered to a cell. It is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator,” Dr. Martin said, referring to the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines being used to inoculate the population in the U.S. and many other countries worldwide.

“They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand that is going into the cell is not to stop transmission. It is a treatment. But if it was discussed as a treatment, it would not get the sympathetic ear of public health authorities, because then people would say ‘What other treatments are there?'”

Dr. Martin warned that mRNA vaccines actually induce an illness instead of an immuno-transmissive response. “In other words, nothing about this is going to stop you transmitting anything. This is about getting you sick, and having your own cells be the thing that get you sick,” he said.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-28-m...

"Doctor" Martin has a PhD in Business Administration.

Here's what the Reuters fact checker has to say on this claim:
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...

Also other claims of his about the "plandemic"
"If Event 201 is the backbone of the conspiracy theory in “Plandemic,” then David Martin is the central character. He’s featured throughout the video, making claims primarily about patents.

Martin runs a company called M-CAM, which analyzes patents and intellectual property to estimate the investment value of companies."
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-pl...

"Posts shared widely on social media allege there is no scientific basis behind the use of face coverings during the COVID-19 pandemic. This is false. ... The social media post attributes the quote to a Dr David Martin.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...

Here is a fact check

All you need to do is connect the dots:

Daylight killers...
The masks begin to fall off!
"The Chinese biological laboratory in Wuhan is owned by Glaxosmithkline, which (accidentally) owns Pfizer!" (the one who makes the vaccine against the virus which was (accidentally) started at the Wuhan Biological Lab and which was (accidentally) funded by Dr. Fauci, who (accidentally) promotes the vaccine!
"GlaxoSmithKline is (accidentally) managed by the finance division of Black Rock, which (accidentally) manages the finances of the Open Foundation Company (Soros Foundation), which (accidentally) manages the French AXA!
"Soros (accidentally) owns the German company Winterthur, which (accidentally) built a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan and was bought by the German Allianz, which (coincidentally) has Vanguard as a shareholder, who (coincidentally) is a shareholder of Black Rock," which (coincidentally) controls central banks and manages about a third of global investment capital.
"Black Rock" is also (coincidentally) a major shareholder of MICROSOFT, owned by Bill Gates, who (coincidentally) is a shareholder of Pfizer (which - remember? Sells a miracle vaccine) and (coincidentally) is now the first sponsor of the 'WHO!
Now you understand how a dead bat sold in a wet market in China has infected the WHOLE PLANET! "" ....

so... what's the link between the dead bat, and the 'Chinese biological laboratory in Wuhan is owned by Glaxosmithkline'?

quick, before FYI moderate this nonsense...

and Tania, we haven't mentioned your 'secondly' - 'full scientific information on what will occur through an experimental mass vaccination'

if we have the information, then we don't need to do the experiment?

Your "accidentally" cut and paste is not a fact check. it is just a unattributed, unverified bit of Internet dross that is doing the rounds at the moment.

Just picking one element of it — that the Whuan lab is owned by Glaxo. That is false or so say the following sources which I trust more than something you picked up on Facetube
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-g...

I'm giving up on trying to help you. You are clearly on the sweet spot of the Dunning Kruger curve and are unlikely to be persuaded on coming down from the mountain top

Robert F. Kennedy Jr and ICAN have sued the US Government about the safety of vaccines, and have won. The question that remains is will the government agencies charged with protecting the public and failing to do so be held accountable for the negligence, will the Department of Health and Human Services finally be held accountable for their failure? Or will things continue on as is with the vaccine industry continuing to be allowed to spread its toxic injections, just how deep do those Big Pharma pockets go and encompass; and when do the blinders come off?

This will come as big and important news for anyone concerned with the safety of vaccines: as it turns out the federal government has been neglecting safety obligation for decades, which has been proven in a court of law bringing RFK Jr and ICAN to victory over DHHS.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr teamed up with Del Bigtree of the Informed Consent Action Network to take on the Department of Health and Human Services for vaccine safety violations and they have won. Their lawsuit has brought forth evidence that vaccine safety has been neglected for over 30 years, and as we know it is nothing but a sham, showing that the government agencies we are to trust are not doing their jobs to ensure and improve the safety of immunizations.

The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 compels DHHS to take responsibility for improving efficacy and safety of vaccines; and charges them with continuous monitoring and improving of adverse event reporting. The DHHS is also tasked with providing a report on improvements by the Mandate for Safer Childhood Vaccine clause to the Congress at least every 2 years.

The DHHS has failed to meet even the most basic aspects of these important duties entrusted to them by failing to file a single report for the past three decades. It has been over 30 years since NVICA was put into place and entrusted to the DHHS to safeguard children, despite being the agency tasked with the responsibility of investigating and improving safety they have not done as much as to raise a finger towards vaccine safety.

This is an issue which should have been a top priority given the fact that NVICA completely voids industry responsibility regarding vaccine injuries and entrusts DHHS to the task of safeguarding. This can be seen as the government granting Big Pharma unprecendented economic immunity and carte blanche towards the matter of vaccine injury; and yet again another agency has dropped the ball which was charged with protecting the public, moreover innocent children from vaccines.

Additionally ICAN has reported that DHHS has not eschewed from their vaccines responsibilities completely, as they have reportedly taken their obligation to promote vaccine uptake seriously via spending billions of dollars on conduction reports showing how to increase vaccination rates.

ICAN has stated: “ICAN was therefore forced to file a lawsuit to force HHS to either provide copies of its biennial vaccine safety reports to Congress or admit it never filed these reports. The result of the lawsuit is that HHS had to finally and shockingly admit that it never, not even once, submitted a single biennial report to Congress detailing the improvements in vaccine safety. This speaks volumes to the seriousness by which vaccine safety is treated at HHS and heightens the concern that HHS doesn’t have a clue as to the actual safety profile of the now 29 doses, and growing, of vaccines given by one year of age.”

“Regrettably, HHS has chosen to focus on its obligation to increase vaccine uptake and defend against any claim vaccines cause harm in the National Injury Vaccine Compensation Program (aka, the Vaccine Court) to such a degree that it has abandoned its vaccine safety responsibilities. If HHS is not, as confirmed in Court this week, even fulfilling the simple task of filing a biennial report on vaccine safety improvements, there is little hope that HHS is actually tackling the much harder job of actually improving vaccine safety.”

And Mr Troll, aka Rogers, please don't tell me to come off my mountain top when you are clearly the one looking down on us.

BOMBSHELL: Moderna Chief medical officer ADMITS mRNA alters DNA!!!

Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, both vaccines use the same technology (mRNA)

At one minute in, Zaks states, “In every cell there’s this thing called messenger RNA or mRNA for short, that transmits the critical information from the DNA in our genes to the protein, which is really the stuff we’re all made out of. This is the critical information that determines what the cell will do. So we think about it as an operating system. …. So if you could actually change that, … if you could introduce a line of code, or change a line of code, it turns out, that has profound implications for everything, from the flu to cancer.” [Emphasis mine.]

When “changing” a line of code or “introducing” a line of code” (referring to DNA), the “code” or DNA is then altered, meaning the individual or “subject” has now had their genome changed to what the “scientists” have coded. The individual or subject is no longer a creation of God but a creation of man, meaning the individual or subject could be the object of a “patent”. He goes on to say, the mRNA would tell the cells to “code” for the protein of the “virus”. This “viral protein” is foreign to the body. The individual’s body is making a foreign protein the immune system is to attack. When the body makes a protein the immune system then attacks, your immune system is attacking a protein your body is making, meaning what is occurring in an “auto-immune response” or “auto-immune disease”.

This has been repeated a number of times by experts, physicians, nurses and countless others. As readers can see, none of us were “whistling Dixie”. Zaks talks about turning this system on; however, there is no way to turn it off. When do the cells know to stop making this “viral protein”? The cells don’t; therefore, this continues for the duration.

In a normal vaccine, the immune system attacks the limited amount of “particles” in the adjuvant to produce antibodies or immune response that the body can recognize at a later time if the individual comes in contact with the same or similar “particle”.

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The study Zaks cites at the 3:12 minute mark can be found and read here. The abstract is contained on the NIH Pub Med Library website. In the full test of the study on ResearchGate, the mention of “Luciferase” occurs on page 10. A crucial piece of information in this study is contained on page 4 – “Ferrets immunized with 200 micrograms and challenged [exposed to influenza H7N9 via IN (intranasal)] on day 49 had viral loads below the level of detection”. If a viral load was “below the level of detection”, two questions emerge: 1) did the ferrets even contract H7N9 through intranasal challenge; and, 2) if a viral load is below the level of detection, how do you know the animals even had a viral load? This would bring into question the efficacy of the injection.

Moreover, the studies Zaks cites as occurring in humans only lasted approximately 18 months.

Ask this question: what causes the cells/body to produce needed enzymes/proteins? Zaks answers that by saying the genetic code or DNA. So, mRNA has to alter a genetic code or the DNA for the body to produce the proteins of COVID-19 for the body to mount an immune response.

Out of the words of Tal Zaks of Moderna, mRNA can alter the human genome. Whether by design or “unintended consequences”, this technology is being used to do just that. He calls this “information therapy”; although, some would call it “mad science”. In attempts to “rewrite” genetic code to correct defects, studies have shown there were “cascading failures”. In other words, changing one “defective gene” in one genome caused other genes to “fail” or cause problems. And, it was not just one subsequent gene becoming defective, but many. This is more than likely why there are over 400 adverse events surrounding the experimental mRNA injection.

SO , THE NEXT TIME SOMEONE CLAIMS THESE “VACCINES ” DO NOT ALTER THE HUMAN GENOME or DNA, you can refer that individual to Tal Zaks of MODERNA, Inc. who claims otherwise.

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It’s hard to find how many doses of Pfizer have been administered but the world-wide total of vaccines administered is around 840,000,000. Most countries are using either Pfizer or Oxford.

So if, for arguments sake, we say 400,000,000 million doses of Pfizer have been administered, then the Vigiaccess ADR statistics show your chances of having an adverse reaction are:

Blood and lymphatic system disorders (0.000005%)
Cardiac disorders (0.000005%)
Congenital, familial and genetic disorders (0.0000003%)
Ear and labyrinth disorders (0.0003%)
…
General disorders and administration site conditions (0.0008%)
etc

Thank you Tania very informative and Allen and Mr Rodgers for the interesting dialogue. What Tania says is easily verifiable and true. The virus came from the lab and was spiked up to infect humans. Nothing good will come of a man made virus that is meant to be fixed by man made technology that will only apparently lessons your symptoms and due to side effects in previous trials mRNA vaccines/gene therapies had never been approved before this emergency due to auto immune issues. Ultimately the spike proteins have been know to attack healthy cells causing immune issues. These issues have never been rectified. If the gene therapy did anything other than harm it would have already worked in highly vaccinated countries like Gibraltar and Israel. Sadly New Zealand will be another country like this as we are being directed by WHO who coincidentally our director general of health worked for. Happy research Allen and Mr Rodgers. Suggest you start asking why the mass censorship of doctors speaking out and maybe listen to what they have to say. You will get more info in one interview than you will get from the podium of truth in NZ. Also get prepped for heart attacks and organ failure in children this year…