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From: Malcolm France

Dear Chris Hipkins,

I request to be provided with the evidence and facts of the following questions under section 12 of the Official Information Act 1982 ,and The Declaration on Open and Transparent Government as approved by Cabinet on 8 August 2011.

Given that immunity is the goal not vaccination to make people safe against COVID-19 and there are many studys showing natural immunity (from catching SARS-Cov-2) is as good as, if not better than multiple vaccinations ,

1) Why is the vaccine certificate not called an Immunity Certificate and not include natural immunity under the "COVID-19 Response (Vaccinations) Legislation Act 2021" and the "COVID-19 Public Health Response (COVID-19 Vaccination Certificate) Order 2021" , like most other western countries do ?

2) What studys, data , information etc were used by parliament whether relied on or not to pass the COVID-19 Response (Vaccinations) Legislation Act 2021, regarding excluding natural immunity ? Please supply copies of all of it.

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/publ...

5) What studys, data , information etc did you use whether you relied on or not to make this COVID-19 Public Health Response (COVID-19 Vaccination Certificate) Order 2021 , regarding excluding natural immunity ? Please supply copies of all of it.

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulati...

Answer here ,separately from any other of my OIAs without co-joining them.

Yours faithfully,

legal person and said citizen
Mr Malcolm France
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Chris Hipkins

Kia ora

 

Thank you for taking the time to write to Hon Chris Hipkins, Minister for
COVID-19 Response, Minister of Education, Minister for the Public Sector
and Leader of the House.

We are receiving a significant amount of correspondence at the moment and
although your email will be carefully considered and noted, it is not
possible to respond to each individual email. However we will endeavour
to respond to your individual queries as soon as we can.

In the meantime, information about the COVID-19 Protection Framework can
be found here:
[1]https://covid19.govt.nz/traffic-lights/c...
and guidance for businesses can be found here:
[2]https://www.business.govt.nz/covid-19/
Current locations of interest are set out
at [3]https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/dise...
encourage anyone who has been at one of the locations of interest at the
time specified to self-isolate and call Healthline on 0800 358 5453. 

 

You can find the nearest testing centre to you
at [4]https://www.healthpoint.co.nz/covid-19/ and your nearest
vaccination centre at
[5]https://www.healthpoint.co.nz/covid-19-v.... You can also book
your vaccination at [6]https://bookmyvaccine.covid19.health.nz/ or by
calling 0800 28 29 26.

 

To get your My Vaccine Pass online head to
[7]https://mycovidrecord.health.nz/ or for help over the phone you can
call 0800 222 478 between 8am and 8pm, 7 days a week. Those pharmacies
giving COVID-19 vaccines can also help with My Vaccine Pass face to face,
and can be found here:
[8]https://www.healthpoint.co.nz/covid-19-v...
.

We appreciate that this is a challenging time. If you need to talk, you
can call or text 1737 at any time. Mental health and wellbeing resources
are also available
at [9]https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/dise...
about the financial support available to individuals and businesses can be
found
at [10]https://covid19.govt.nz/business-and-mon....

We also understand that there are several other aspects to the response
that are very important to people. You can find more information about:

o Managed Isolation and Quarantine (MIQ)
at [11]https://www.miq.govt.nz/, including how to request an emergency
allocation
at [12]https://www.miq.govt.nz/travel-to-new-ze...
make a complaint or request a review of your application by
emailing [13]https://www.miq.govt.nz/about/contact-us....
o Travel with Australia
at [14]https://covid19.govt.nz/travel/quarantin...
you are in Australia, please register
at [15]https://www.safetravel.govt.nz/ and if it is an emergency,
contact the Consulate on +64 99 20 20 20.
o Vaccine data and statistics
at [16]https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/dise...
Medsafe’s vaccine safety monitoring reports
at [17]https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/vac...
o The Government’s plan to reconnect New Zealand with the rest of the
world
at [19]https://covid19.govt.nz/reconnecting-new....

Please remember to take care, and be kind. We have beaten COVID-19 before,
and we can do it again.

Ngā mihi,

Office of Hon Chris Hipkins

Minister for COVID-19 Response | Minister of Education | Minister for the
Public Sector | Leader of the House | MP for Remutaka

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Kia ora Malcolm,

 

Thank you for your request for official information. The Minister's Office
reference number for your request is: CHOIA204

 

Please be advised that due dates for requests received from 29 November
2021 onwards take into account the following periods:

 

Christmas (25 December 2021)

Summer Holidays (25 December to 15 January)

New Year's Day (1 January 2022)

Day after News Year's Day (2 January 2022)

 

Your request has been logged and you can expect a reply no later than 8
February 2022 as required under the Official Information Act 1982.

 

If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate to
get in touch.

 

Ngā mihi,

 

[1]cid:image001.jpg@01D433B3.8E157340 Daniel
Martin
Health
Private
Secretary

Office of
Hon Chris
Hipkins   

Minister
for
COVID-19
Response |
Minister
of
Education
| Minister
for the
Public
Service |
Leader of
the House

Parliament
Buildings,
Private
Bag 18041,
Wellington
6160, New
Zealand

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Malcolm France
[[2]mailto:[FYI request #18001 email]]

Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2021 2:03 PM

To: C Hipkins (MIN) <[3][Chris Hipkins request email]>

Subject: Official Information request - COVID-19 vaccination certificate
excluding natural immunity

 

Dear Chris Hipkins,

 

I request to be provided with the evidence and facts of the following
questions under section 12 of the Official Information Act 1982 ,and The
Declaration on Open and Transparent Government as approved by Cabinet on 8
August 2011.

 

Given that immunity is the goal not vaccination to make people safe
against COVID-19 and there are many studys showing natural immunity (from
catching SARS-Cov-2) is as good as, if not better than multiple
vaccinations ,

 

1)  Why  is the vaccine certificate not called an Immunity Certificate and
not include natural immunity under the  "COVID-19 Response (Vaccinations)
Legislation Act 2021" and  the "COVID-19 Public Health Response (COVID-19
Vaccination Certificate) Order 2021"  ,  like most other western countries
do ?

 

2) What studys, data , information etc were used by parliament whether
relied on or not  to pass the COVID-19 Response (Vaccinations) Legislation
Act 2021, regarding excluding natural immunity ? Please supply copies of
all of  it.

 

[4]https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/publ...

 

5) What studys, data , information etc did you use whether you relied on
or not  to make this COVID-19 Public Health Response (COVID-19 Vaccination
Certificate) Order 2021  , regarding excluding natural immunity ? Please
supply copies of all of it.

 

[5]https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulati...

 

Answer here ,separately from any other of my OIAs without co-joining them.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

legal person and said citizen

Mr Malcolm France

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[6][FYI request #18001 email]

 

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Kia ora Malcolm,

 

Please find attached the Ministers response to your request for official
information.

 

Ngā mihi,

 

 

[1]cid:image001.jpg@01D433B3.8E157340 Daniel
Martin
Health
Private
Secretary

Office of
Hon Chris
Hipkins   

Minister
for
COVID-19
Response |
Minister
of
Education
| Minister
for the
Public
Service |
Leader of
the House

Parliament
Buildings,
Private
Bag 18041,
Wellington
6160, New
Zealand

 

 

From: Daniel Martin
Sent: Monday, 20 December 2021 3:46 PM
To: '[FOI #18001 email]'
<[FOI #18001 email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - COVID-19 vaccination
certificate excluding natural immunity (CHOIA204)

 

Kia ora Malcolm,

 

Thank you for your request for official information. The Minister's Office
reference number for your request is: CHOIA204

 

Please be advised that due dates for requests received from 29 November
2021 onwards take into account the following periods:

 

Christmas (25 December 2021)

Summer Holidays (25 December to 15 January)

New Year's Day (1 January 2022)

Day after News Year's Day (2 January 2022)

 

Your request has been logged and you can expect a reply no later than 8
February 2022 as required under the Official Information Act 1982.

 

If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate to
get in touch.

 

Ngā mihi,

 

[2]cid:image001.jpg@01D433B3.8E157340 Daniel
Martin
Health
Private
Secretary

Office of
Hon Chris
Hipkins   

Minister
for
COVID-19
Response |
Minister
of
Education
| Minister
for the
Public
Service |
Leader of
the House

Parliament
Buildings,
Private
Bag 18041,
Wellington
6160, New
Zealand

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Malcolm France
[[3]mailto:[FOI #18001 email]]

Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2021 2:03 PM

To: C Hipkins (MIN) <[4][Chris Hipkins request email]>

Subject: Official Information request - COVID-19 vaccination certificate
excluding natural immunity

 

Dear Chris Hipkins,

 

I request to be provided with the evidence and facts of the following
questions under section 12 of the Official Information Act 1982 ,and The
Declaration on Open and Transparent Government as approved by Cabinet on 8
August 2011.

 

Given that immunity is the goal not vaccination to make people safe
against COVID-19 and there are many studys showing natural immunity (from
catching SARS-Cov-2) is as good as, if not better than multiple
vaccinations ,

 

1)  Why  is the vaccine certificate not called an Immunity Certificate and
not include natural immunity under the  "COVID-19 Response (Vaccinations)
Legislation Act 2021" and  the "COVID-19 Public Health Response (COVID-19
Vaccination Certificate) Order 2021"  ,  like most other western countries
do ?

 

2) What studys, data , information etc were used by parliament whether
relied on or not  to pass the COVID-19 Response (Vaccinations) Legislation
Act 2021, regarding excluding natural immunity ? Please supply copies of
all of  it.

 

[5]https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/publ...

 

5) What studys, data , information etc did you use whether you relied on
or not  to make this COVID-19 Public Health Response (COVID-19 Vaccination
Certificate) Order 2021  , regarding excluding natural immunity ? Please
supply copies of all of it.

 

[6]https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulati...

 

Answer here ,separately from any other of my OIAs without co-joining them.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

legal person and said citizen

Mr Malcolm France

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This is an Official Information request made via the FYI website.

 

Please use this email address for all replies to this request:

[7][FOI #18001 email]

 

Is [8][Chris Hipkins request email] the wrong address for Official
Information requests to Chris Hipkins? If so, please contact us using this
form:

[9]https://fyi.org.nz/change_request/new?bo...

 

Disclaimer: This message and any reply that you make will be published on
the internet. Our privacy and copyright policies:

[10]https://fyi.org.nz/help/officers

 

If you find this service useful as an Official Information officer, please
ask your web manager to link to us from your organisation's OIA or LGOIMA
page.

 

 

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From: Malcolm France

Dear Daniel Martin,

This is an unsatisfactory response as the questions are not answered in numbered order and so to correct and clarify

Q1
Take out the ancillary reference to other countries including natural immunity in immunity/vaccine passports in my original question so that it reads ;

"Why is the vaccine certificate not called an Immunity Certificate and not include natural
immunity under the "COVID-19 Response (Vaccinations) Legislation Act 2021" and
the "COVID-19 Public Health Response (COVID-19 Vaccination Certificate) Order
2021" "

and then answer the question .

Q2
Please clarify as per your previous response that NZ Parliament has no records of and is not holding , destroyed, looked at , searched for or been given any information (even if not looked at) on "natural immunity versus vaccination immunity" ,
[and by deduction have in effect that Parliament has ignored all existing studies and other information in Parliaments decision on passing the "Covid-19 Response Vaccinations Legislation Act 2021"]

Q3
Please clarify as per your previous response that you (Chris Hipkins) are not holding , destroyed, looked at, searched for or been given any information (even if not looked at) on "natural immunity versus vaccination immunity" ,
[and by deduction in effect that you have ignored all existing studies and other information in your decision on natural immunity when deciding on/planning and implementing on vaccine certificates. including passing relevant legislation].

Please answer in numbered sequence

Yours sincerely,

Malcolm France
by AR

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From: Daniel Martin

Kia ora Malcolm,

The Minister has nothing further to add to this request for official information.

Under section 28(3) of the Act you have the right to ask the Ombudsman to review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be contacted by email at: [email address] or by calling 0800 802 602.

Ngā mihi

Daniel Martin
Health Private Secretary
Office of Hon Chris Hipkins
Minister for COVID-19 Response | Minister of Education | Minister for the Public Service | Leader of the House
Parliament Buildings, Private Bag 18041, Wellington 6160, New Zealand

-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm France [mailto:[FOI #18001 email]]
Sent: Saturday, 12 February 2022 12:26 PM
To: Daniel Martin <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - COVID-19 vaccination certificate excluding natural immunity (CHOIA204)

Dear Daniel Martin,

This is an unsatisfactory response as the questions are not answered in numbered order and so to correct and clarify

Q1
Take out the ancillary reference to other countries including natural immunity in immunity/vaccine passports in my original question so that it reads ;

"Why is the vaccine certificate not called an Immunity Certificate and not include natural immunity under the "COVID-19 Response (Vaccinations) Legislation Act 2021" and the "COVID-19 Public Health Response (COVID-19 Vaccination Certificate) Order 2021" "

and then answer the question .

Q2
Please clarify as per your previous response that NZ Parliament has no records of and is not holding , destroyed, looked at , searched for or been given any information (even if not looked at) on "natural immunity versus vaccination immunity" , [and by deduction have in effect that Parliament has ignored all existing studies and other information in Parliaments decision on passing the "Covid-19 Response Vaccinations Legislation Act 2021"]

Q3
Please clarify as per your previous response that you (Chris Hipkins) are not holding , destroyed, looked at, searched for or been given any information (even if not looked at) on "natural immunity versus vaccination immunity" , [and by deduction in effect that you have ignored all existing studies and other information in your decision on natural immunity when deciding on/planning and implementing on vaccine certificates. including passing relevant legislation].

Please answer in numbered sequence

Yours sincerely,

Malcolm France
by AR

-----Original Message-----

Kia ora Malcolm,

Please find attached the Ministers response to your request for official information.

Ngā mihi,

[1]cid:image001.jpg@01D433B3.8E157340 Daniel Martin Health Private Secretary

Office of
Hon Chris
Hipkins

Minister
for
COVID-19
Response |
Minister
of
Education
| Minister
for the
Public
Service |
Leader of
the House

Parliament
Buildings,
Private
Bag 18041,
Wellington
6160, New
Zealand

From: Daniel Martin
Sent: Monday, 20 December 2021 3:46 PM
To: '[FOI #18001 email]'
<[FOI #18001 email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - COVID-19 vaccination certificate excluding natural immunity (CHOIA204)

Kia ora Malcolm,

Thank you for your request for official information. The Minister's Office reference number for your request is: CHOIA204

Please be advised that due dates for requests received from 29 November
2021 onwards take into account the following periods:

Christmas (25 December 2021)

Summer Holidays (25 December to 15 January)

New Year's Day (1 January 2022)

Day after News Year's Day (2 January 2022)

Your request has been logged and you can expect a reply no later than 8 February 2022 as required under the Official Information Act 1982.

If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate to get in touch.

Ngā mihi,

[2]cid:image001.jpg@01D433B3.8E157340 Daniel Martin Health Private Secretary

Office of
Hon Chris
Hipkins

Minister
for
COVID-19
Response |
Minister
of
Education
| Minister
for the
Public
Service |
Leader of
the House

Parliament
Buildings,
Private
Bag 18041,
Wellington
6160, New
Zealand

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