Denial of entry to council facilities and amenities if unvaccinated
Barbara made this Official Information request to Tasman District Council
The request was refused by Tasman District Council.
From: Barbara
Dear Tasman District Council,
Can you please provide the following within 20 working days or sooner as required:
1. A full list of council funded public and other facilities and amenities that will require proof of vaccination status as a condition of entry or use.
2. The proportion of my rates attributed to these facilities and amenities, with proof.
Yours faithfully,
Barbara Stirrup
From: LGOIMA
Tasman District Council
Kia ora Barbara
I acknowledge receipt of your official information request dated 22
November 2021 for:
- A full list of council funded public and other facilities and amenities
that will require proof of vaccination status as a condition of entry or
use.
- The proportion of my rates attributed to these facilities and amenities,
with proof.
We will endeavour to respond to your request as soon as possible and no
later than 11 January 2022, being 20 working days after the day your
request was received. If we are unable to respond to your request by this
date, we will notify you of an extension of that timeframe. For requests
that are likely to involve substantial collation and/or research there may
be a charge for staff time, however if this is the case we will advise you
before we process your request.
Your request is being handled by the Operational Governance Team. If you
have any queries, please feel free to contact the Team on
[email address]. If any additional factors come to light which are
relevant to your request, please do not hesitate to contact us so that
these can be taken into account.
Ngā mihi
Erinn
LGOIMA
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Call +64 3 543 8400 | [1][Tasman District Council request email]
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From: LGOIMA
Tasman District Council
Kia ora Barbara
I refer to your official information request dated 22 November 2021.
Please find the information you requested regarding accessing Council
services and facilities [1]here.
Tasman District Council, like all public building owners, must comply with
new legislation set out by central government in respect of entry to
public buildings and community facilities.
Local Government rates are a tax on property, not a user pays system. The
rates we charge have been set to make public facilities available for use.
The use of these buildings and facilities is a choice.
As a result, regardless of the reason for an individual’s choice to not
use a facility, the liability for rates will remain.
If you are not satisfied with Council’s response, you have the right to
seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman. Information about how
to make a complaint is available at [2]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or
freephone 0800 802 602.
If you wish to discuss this decision with us, please feel free to
contact the Operational Governance team on [3][email address].
Ngā mihi
Erinn
LGOIMA
LGOIMA Requests
Call +64 3 543 8400 | [4][Tasman District Council request email]
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From: LGOIMA <[Tasman District Council request email]>
Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 8:58 am
To: Barbara <[FOI #17638 email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Denial of entry to council
facilities and amenities if unvaccinated
Kia ora Barbara
I acknowledge receipt of your official information request dated 22
November 2021 for:
- A full list of council funded public and other facilities and amenities
that will require proof of vaccination status as a condition of entry or
use.
- The proportion of my rates attributed to these facilities and amenities,
with proof.
We will endeavour to respond to your request as soon as possible and no
later than 11 January 2022, being 20 working days after the day your
request was received. If we are unable to respond to your request by this
date, we will notify you of an extension of that timeframe. For requests
that are likely to involve substantial collation and/or research there may
be a charge for staff time, however if this is the case we will advise you
before we process your request.
Your request is being handled by the Operational Governance Team. If you
have any queries, please feel free to contact the Team on
[8][email address]. If any additional factors come to light which
are relevant to your request, please do not hesitate to contact us so that
these can be taken into account.
Ngā mihi
Erinn
LGOIMA | Governance Services
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From: Barbara
Dear LGOIMA,
Hi.
TDC have sent me a reply and I think they replied to someone elses request rather than mine.
I asked 2 questions and they failed to answer, or provide, or even mention what I asked for.
Id like them to respond to each of the 2 questions as asked. They can maybe put 1. And then their answer and then 2. And then their answer.
No they cannot have a time extn as I need the answers now and within their alloted timeframe.
Yours sincerely,
Barbara
From: LGOIMA
Tasman District Council
Kia ora Barbara
I apologise if my earlier email was not clear. I confirm Council’s
response was to your LGOIMA request.
In response to your questions:
1. You can find information about what Council facilities require a My
Vaccine Pass [1]here.
2. Council rates are a property tax and are not apportioned to
facilities.
If you are not satisfied with Council’s response, you have the right to
seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman. Information about how
to make a complaint is available at [2]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or
freephone 0800 802 602.
If you wish to discuss this decision with us, please feel free to
contact the Operational Governance team on [3][email address].
Ngā mihi
Erinn
LGOIMA
LGOIMA Requests
Call +64 3 543 8400 | [4][Tasman District Council request email]
Private Bag 4, Richmond 7050, NZ
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From: Barbara
Dear LGOIMA,
Hi again.
1. In both responses so far TDC have said go "Here" but have failed to provide access to any link at all. The words go Here go NOWHERE
Please make all links available to view.
1. This question still remains completely unanswered.
Its MY question thats being asked and its MY question as asked that must be answered.
Yours sincerely,
Barbara
From: Barbara
Dear LGOIMA,
Im responding to whoever sent that last correspondence to me.
That was very helpful thankyou 👍🏻
Maybe you could get a job at Tasman District Council.
God bless you.
Yours sincerely,
Barbara
From: LGOIMA
Tasman District Council
Kia ora Barbara
In both responses, the word 'here' is hyperlinked to this page:
https://www.tasman.govt.nz/my-council/ab....
Ngā mihi
Erinn
LGOIMA
LGOIMA Requests
Call +64 3 543 8400 | [1][Tasman District Council request email]
Private Bag 4, Richmond 7050, NZ
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From: Barbara
Dear LGOIMA,
Thankyou
I believe TDC have made an error in their response to question number 2.
As Councils are corporations its both illegal and unlawful for corporations to issue and gather taxes and yet here they confess to issue and gather taxes.
Theres something very wrong here.
Question 1. Has been answered.
Question 2. TDCs response does not make any legal sense and Im awaiting an honest and legal answer.
Yours sincerely,
Barbara
From: LGOIMA
Tasman District Council
Kia ora Barbara
I confirm that Local Government rates are a tax on property. The Local
Government (Rating) Act 2002 provides councils with flexible powers to
set, assess and collect rates from landowners. You can view this Act here:
[1]https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/publ....
If you are not satisfied with Council’s response, you have the right to
seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman. Information about how
to make a complaint is available at [2]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or
freephone 0800 802 602.
If you wish to discuss this decision with us, please feel free to contact
the Operational Governance team on [3][email address].
Ngā mihi
Erinn
LGOIMA
LGOIMA Requests
Call +64 3 543 8400 | [4][Tasman District Council request email]
Private Bag 4, Richmond 7050, NZ
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From: Barbara
Dear LGOIMA,
Hi TDC
Thankyou
Acts and Legislation ONLY Bind The Crown and ONLY apply to "persons" which is a paper only entity.
As a sovereign woman of the land and Kaitiaki of Te Moana Nui a Kiwa NZ will you please show me the "Law" that applies to me personally regarding your Land Tax aka Rates.
Yours sincerely,
Barbara
From: LGOIMA
Tasman District Council
Kia ora Barbara
Thankyou for your email.
It appears you have raised a challenge to your obligation to pay rates.
Your obligation to pay rates
Rates are levied pursuant to Local Government (Rating) Act 2002. By virtue
of section 60 of that Act, you may not refuse to pay rates by claiming
they are invalid unless you bring legal proceedings in the High Court.
You have not issued High Court legal proceedings and therefore must pay
your rates as they fall due.
What happens if you don't pay your rates?
If you do not pay your rates, Council can take action to obtain the amount
you owe. We invest time and effort into the collection of unpaid rates to
be fair to the majority of property owners who do pay their rates on
time.
Sections 63 - 76 of the Local Government (Rating) Act 2002 allows Council
to take legal action to recover overdue rates. Ultimately, this means that
Council can demand the forced sale of the defaulting ratepayer’s property
order to recover the amount owed. This process also attracts costs,
penalties and interest.
Next steps
Council encourages you to seek independent legal advice on the validity of
your claim.
If you wish to challenge your obligation to pay rates, you must take the
appropriate legal action.
Ngā mihi
Erinn
LGOIMA
LGOIMA Requests
Call +64 3 543 8400 | [1][Tasman District Council request email]
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From: Barbara
Dear LGOIMA,
Hi.
I did ask you to provide the LAW
You continued to quote the Acts which are only for persons not people.
Did you fail to provide the Law because there is NO LAW?
Or did you fail to provide the Law because you dont know its relevance?
Please dont go off on your personal tangents and opinions.
The Law is suffice.
If you cannot provide me the relevant Law then please explain and answer the question as all youve done so far is provide Acts and Legislation and your own personal tirade which are not at all relevant to people, only persons - which are paper entities, and Im not a paper entity Im a real living woman.
Therefore please provide the actual Law.
Yours sincerely,
Barbara
Barbara left an annotation ()
NZ Land Tax was abolished in 1992.
There is currently NO Land Tax in NZ.
For TDC to call rates Land Tax is both Illegal and Unlawful as per Legislation and Law.
Chris left an annotation ()
Hey Barbara, the A in LGOIMA stands for Act. If acts don't apply to you, how are you using an act of parliament to require the council to provide you with information?
Barbara left an annotation ()
As people we are allowed to choose at any given time and situation whether to use common Law or its subservient Acts and Legislation.
Mr Rodgers left an annotation ()
That's a good thing to know. As I don't consent to the Crimes Act, I think I'll go and murder my neighbours.
Barbara left an annotation ()
Mr Rodgers
This is not facebook or any other social media platform. Please control yourself and keep any annotations you wish to make here relevant. Your annotation is out of order and will be ignored from this point onwards.
Dear LGOIMA please block Mr Rodgers from future annotations to my LGOIMA request.
Thankyou.
Barbara left an annotation ()
Dear ADMIN
Will you please remove Mr Rodgers annotation as it is vexatious.
Will you please also report Mr Rodgers to NZ Police as he has clearly stated that he is going to "KILL HIS NEIGHBOURS".
Thankyou
Barbara left an annotation ()
A small correction to my last annotation that was addressed to Admin regarding a frivolus annotation made by Mr Rodgers.
The words "clearly stated that he is going to kill his neighbours."
To be replaced with the words:
"clearly stated that he is thinking about killing his neighbours."
Thankyou.
From: LGOIMA
Tasman District Council
Kia ora Barbara
I reiterate the information provided in my email dated 9 December 2021.
Council has nothing further to add.
If you are not satisfied with this response or feel Council has treated
you unfairly, you have the right to make a complaint to the Ombudsman.
Information about how to make a complaint is available at
www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or freephone 0800 802 602.
Ngā mihi
Erinn
LGOIMA
LGOIMA Requests
Call +64 3 543 8400 | [1][Tasman District Council request email]
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Barbara left an annotation ()
I have just made a complaint to the Ombudsmans Office and awaiting a response.
Chris left an annotation ()
I'd love to see the ombudsman's reply. Please post it when you get it. The council answered both of your requests, the first one they provided you a link to the public information and the second one they said that the information does not exist, there is no break down per facility per rate payer.
It sounds like you don't like the answer that you've received rather than the council has failed to comply with the OIA. They gave you the information you requested, but you didn't like it, the ombudsman can't change that. I wonder if you're expecting the ombudsman to approve your request to not pay rates.
Barbara left an annotation ()
Hello Chris. Are you from TDC trolling here. Stop it.
I have never said anything about not paying my rates.
TDC employee created that myth as witnessed right here in this request.
And you trying to push the lying narrative that the TDC employee tried to push, and wrongly so. It makes you appear to be a deliberate troll and perhaps even a TDC employee.
I suggest you stop your creation of fantasy regarding MY questions as Im certain the Ombudsman will see right through your nonsense.
Stop it and go away. Trolling not required. This is not a social media platform.
Stop your nonsense.
Question 2 remains unanswered.
Things to do with this request
- Add an annotation (to help the requester or others)
- Download a zip file of all correspondence
Mr Rodgers left an annotation ()
<sigh>
In answer to your first question where they say "Here" you will notice a number — just like a footnote.
If you go to the bottom of their message you will see "show quoted sections" — click on that
And you will see:
1) https://www.tasman.govt.nz/my-council/ab...
Link to this