Number of fully vaccinated Members of Parliament
C A Moses made this Official Information request to Ministry of Health
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From: C A Moses
Dear Ministry of Health,
How many current Members of Parliament are fully vaccinated according to the official definition?
Yours faithfully,
Chris Moses
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C A Moses left an annotation ()
@Rodgers Do you think they're just guessing what information to put on your vaccine pass?
Mr Rodgers left an annotation ()
i don't know what you are asking here?
The MoH will be using a person's health record (keyed on their NHI) to determine whether they are vaccinated or not for the vaccine pass. You can read what data is held on a person by MoH here: https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/heal...
You will note it does *not* record a person's occupation or employer.
Hence your question to MoH on whether all MPs are vaccinated is pointless. They don't know.
C A Moses left an annotation ()
@Rodgers Good try. Read my question in reference to public servants. I await their response.
Mr Rodgers left an annotation ()
Your question was:
"How many current Members of Parliament are fully vaccinated according to the official definition?"
Again I would ask how would MoH know that?
C A Moses left an annotation ()
@Rodgers Again, I'll post the same link: https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/... Read it. WOCA not only wants the number of every unvaccinated Maori from the MOH but they want all the data. That's how I know. In fact, let me quote the relevant part from the article for you: "It wants individual data for every unvaccinated Māori." Clear? Yet I'm just wanting the numbers, not the private information. The link you sent was unhelpful - if that's what you're trying to be.
Mr Rodgers left an annotation ()
The MoH health record databases will cover a person's ethnicity and therefore the Whānau Ora requests (rightly or wrongly) are achievable.
Your request calls for a parameter (employer) that is not recorded on a person's health record therefore the request is not achievable.
While ACC records will hold a person's occupation/employer the link I provided states "The Ministry of Health does not hold .... information relating to ACC. You will need to contact .. ACC directly for this information."
Let's wait and see if I'm right and wrong shall we?
C A Moses left an annotation ()
@Rodgers FYI I make this submission for the benefit of public interest and within s4(a) and s4(c) of the OIA 1982
The parameter you mentioned would be something like "elected public official', not 'employee". Members of Parliament are not employed in a legal sense. Guess who they work for?
At least you're on track with the ethical issues surrounding an incorporated body wanting private information they have no authority to receive, My submission foregoes the sharing of any private information and allows the member(s) to retain anonymity.
You're obviously trolling and busy-bodying for a reason. Allowing agenda-driven annotation is vexatious and unhelpful.
Hey I have an idea: let's just wait and see?
Take care,
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Kia ora Chris,
Thank you for your request for official information received on 6 December
2021 for:
“How many current Members of Parliament are fully vaccinated according to
the official definition?”
Your request asks for information which is more closely connected with the
functions of the Office of Hon Chris Hipkins, Minister for COVID-19
Response. For this reason, the Ministry of Health has decided to transfer
your request to the Office of Hon Chris Hipkins under section 14(b)(ii) of
the Act. You can expect a response in due course.
Under section 28(3) of the Act you have the right to ask the Ombudsman
to review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be
contacted by email at: [1][email address] or by calling 0800
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Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 12:32 PM
To: C A Moses <[3][FOI #17858 email]>
Subject: Your request for official information (ref: H202117577)
Kia ora Chris,
Thank you for your request for official information received on 6 December
2021 for:
“How many current Members of Parliament are fully vaccinated according to
the official definition?”
Your request asks for information which is more closely connected with the
functions of the Office of Hon Chris Hipkins, Minister for COVID-19
Response. For this reason, the Ministry of Health has decided to transfer
your request to the Office of Hon Chris Hipkins under section 14(b)(ii) of
the Act. You can expect a response in due course.
Under section 28(3) of the Act you have the right to ask the Ombudsman
to review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be
contacted by email at: [4][email address] or by calling 0800
802 602.
If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate to
get in touch.
Ngā mihi,
OIA Services Team
[5]Ministry of Health information releases
[6]Unite against COVID-19
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3. mailto:[FOI #17858 email]
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6. https://covid19.govt.nz/
From: C A Moses
Dear Daniel Martin,
Could you please tell me when I will be receiving a response to my request? I wish to point out this request is now overdue.
Yours sincerely,
C A Moses
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And how do you expect the Ministry of Health to know that? It's like asking them how many members of the Ponsonby Rugby Club are vaccinated.
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