DPMC query on specific keywords UAP related

N. S. Hudson made this Official Information request to Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet

The request was refused by Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet.

From: N. S. Hudson

Dear Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet,

I am writing to request information regarding documents held by the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (DPMC), including subgroups such as the National Security Group, the National Assessments Bureau, the Risk and Systems Governance Group that contain specific keywords.

1. Keywords:
- "UAP"
- "Unidentified",
- "Unknown origin",
- "Drone"
- "AARO"
- "AAV" or "Advanced Aerial Vehicle"
- "Balloon" or "Balloons"
-"NORAD" or "North American Aerospace Defense Command"

2. Documents and Timeframe:
- Please provide a list of documents, including files, emails, memos, or any other relevant records, that SEPARATELY contain any of the the specified keywords from the year 2019 to the present date.

3. Format of Information:
- I request that the information be provided in a spreadsheet that includes the title or description of each document, along with the date of creation or receipt, and any additional metadata available.

4. Further Details:
- If the list of documents containing the specified keywords is extensive, I am willing to submit separate requests for each year or Keyword to facilitate the processing of information.

5. Fees and Costs:
- Please inform me in advance if there are any fees associated with processing this request. I am prepared to cover reasonable costs, if applicable.

I understand that compiling this information may require some time and effort, and I appreciate your cooperation in providing access to these records.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to receiving your response in a timely manner.

Yours faithfully,

N. S. Hudson

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From: N. S. Hudson <[FOI #27129 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2024 1:31 PM
To: Information [DPMC] <[DPMC request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - DPMC query on specific keywords UAP related

Dear Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet,

I am writing to request information regarding documents held by the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (DPMC), including subgroups such as the National Security Group, the National Assessments Bureau, the Risk and Systems Governance Group that contain specific keywords.

1. Keywords:
- "UAP"
- "Unidentified",
- "Unknown origin",
- "Drone"
- "AARO"
- "AAV" or "Advanced Aerial Vehicle"
- "Balloon" or "Balloons"
-"NORAD" or "North American Aerospace Defense Command"

2. Documents and Timeframe:
- Please provide a list of documents, including files, emails, memos, or any other relevant records, that SEPARATELY contain any of the the specified keywords from the year 2019 to the present date.

3. Format of Information:
- I request that the information be provided in a spreadsheet that includes the title or description of each document, along with the date of creation or receipt, and any additional metadata available.

4. Further Details:
- If the list of documents containing the specified keywords is extensive, I am willing to submit separate requests for each year or Keyword to facilitate the processing of information.

5. Fees and Costs:
- Please inform me in advance if there are any fees associated with processing this request. I am prepared to cover reasonable costs, if applicable.

I understand that compiling this information may require some time and effort, and I appreciate your cooperation in providing access to these records.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to receiving your response in a timely manner.

Yours faithfully,

N. S. Hudson

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Dear Information [DPMC] / Bridget White - Executive Director - National Security Group,

Sorry I didn't realise that would be so big. I made the original request in the hopes that I wasn't going to be refused for "no info held". As requested I've narrowed the search field to be more specific, I just don't want to miss out on something related due to the narrowing. I've refined my request, I do not believe this should be too much admin as it is rather more specific and clear on what I am asking:

A list in the form of a spreadsheet, of any documentation recieved with content relating to "Balloon" or "Balloons", "Canadian Airspace", "NORAD" or "North American Aerospace Defense Command" From Feb 2023 to current. This is in relation to (Chinese) balloon and or Unidentified craft detection/shootdowns with or without recovery, over the Arctic, US or Canadian Airspace.

A list in the form of a spreadsheet, of any documentation recieved with content relating to "Langley Airforce Base" or "Langley AFB", "drone", "drones" From Dec 2023 to current. This is in relation to drone and or Unidentified craft flown around and or over the above mentioned Air Force Base in the state of Virginia, the United States.

A list in the form of a spreadsheet, of any documentation created by a NZ Government Employee or Contracted by the NZ Government, referencing either of the above.

Yours sincerely,

N. S. Hudson

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Kia ora,

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Ngā mihi,

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Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet

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From: N. S. Hudson <[FOI #27129 email]>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 7:52 PM
To: Information [DPMC] <[DPMC request email]>
Subject: Re: Your OIA request - response

Dear Information [DPMC] / Bridget White - Executive Director - National Security Group,

Sorry I didn't realise that would be so big. I made the original request in the hopes that I wasn't going to be refused for "no info held". As requested I've narrowed the search field to be more specific, I just don't want to miss out on something related due to the narrowing. I've refined my request, I do not believe this should be too much admin as it is rather more specific and clear on what I am asking:

A list in the form of a spreadsheet, of any documentation recieved with content relating to "Balloon" or "Balloons", "Canadian Airspace", "NORAD" or "North American Aerospace Defense Command" From Feb 2023 to current. This is in relation to (Chinese) balloon and or Unidentified craft detection/shootdowns with or without recovery, over the Arctic, US or Canadian Airspace.

A list in the form of a spreadsheet, of any documentation recieved with content relating to "Langley Airforce Base" or "Langley AFB", "drone", "drones" From Dec 2023 to current. This is in relation to drone and or Unidentified craft flown around and or over the above mentioned Air Force Base in the state of Virginia, the United States.

A list in the form of a spreadsheet, of any documentation created by a NZ Government Employee or Contracted by the NZ Government, referencing either of the above.

Yours sincerely,

N. S. Hudson

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Kia ora,

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Ngā mihi,

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Kia Ora

Thank you for refining your request. There are just a few outstanding questions which would help us to respond to you please:

Searching our records for "balloon" or "Balloons" will give us a very large number of results - most of which are probably not what you are seeking. For example it could include anything from weather balloons to party balloons to the phrase "this has ballooned". Can you refine that part of your request? Are you happy if we just search the phrase "Chinese balloon"?

Similarly a search on "drones" will also return a very large number of results. An initial, very preliminary search on this keyword returned nearly 300 results. Partly this is because DPMC has business units that work in disaster recovery and management and drones are used in this context for assessing damage and checking for people or animals that need rescuing. Can you refine the drone search a bit more? Is there a phrase that would include the particular drones you are interested in that would narrow things down?

Can you also be more specific in your request for "any documentation received" - for example this will include everything sent from the public and from other agencies - such as emails, OIA requests, ministerial letters etc - which is a large amount of material to look through. Can you, for example specify senders, types of documents (eg policy documents, briefings to Ministers) and/or particular senders?

Regarding your last sentence: "any documentation created by a NZ Government Employee or Contracted by the NZ Government, referencing either of the above" - we only hold information created by employees of DPMC - we cannot respond for all government agencies.

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-----Original Message-----
From: N. S. Hudson <[FOI #27129 email]>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 7:52 PM
To: Information [DPMC] <[DPMC request email]>
Subject: Re: Your OIA request - response

Dear Information [DPMC] / Bridget White - Executive Director - National Security Group,

Sorry I didn't realise that would be so big. I made the original request in the hopes that I wasn't going to be refused for "no info held". As requested I've narrowed the search field to be more specific, I just don't want to miss out on something related due to the narrowing. I've refined my request, I do not believe this should be too much admin as it is rather more specific and clear on what I am asking:

A list in the form of a spreadsheet, of any documentation recieved with content relating to "Balloon" or "Balloons", "Canadian Airspace", "NORAD" or "North American Aerospace Defense Command" From Feb 2023 to current. This is in relation to (Chinese) balloon and or Unidentified craft detection/shootdowns with or without recovery, over the Arctic, US or Canadian Airspace.

A list in the form of a spreadsheet, of any documentation recieved with content relating to "Langley Airforce Base" or "Langley AFB", "drone", "drones" From Dec 2023 to current. This is in relation to drone and or Unidentified craft flown around and or over the above mentioned Air Force Base in the state of Virginia, the United States.

A list in the form of a spreadsheet, of any documentation created by a NZ Government Employee or Contracted by the NZ Government, referencing either of the above.

Yours sincerely,

N. S. Hudson

-----Original Message-----

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Kia ora,

Please see the attached letter regarding your recent OIA request.

Ngā mihi,

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Dear Information [DPMC],

"Drone(s)" and "Langley"
in the same documents from any government/intelligence/embassy/military source as a briefings to a Minister. Event happened in Dec 2023, but I said to 'current' as I wondered if there were any followups.

Sorry I'll swap out "balloon" for "object", but with the areas mentioned below.

"object" and "Yukon, Canada",
"object" and "Deadhorse, Alaska",
in the same documents from any government/intelligence/embassy/military source as a briefings to a Minister. Event happened in Feb 2023, but I said to 'current' as I wondered if there were any followups.

I was just trying to make things easier for you guys but it seems I haven't unfortunately, sorry about that.

Yours sincerely,

N. S. Hudson

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Kia ora

Thanks for this refinement. Just to note, under the OIA a refinement
affects the due date for a request. Your request is now due to you on or
before 16 July 2024.

Regards

Ministerials Services
Strategy, Governance and Engagement
Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet
 
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From: N. S. Hudson <[FOI #27129 email]>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2024 6:29 PM
To: Information [DPMC] <[DPMC request email]>
Subject: RE: Your OIA request - response

Dear Information [DPMC],

"Drone(s)" and "Langley"
in the same documents from any government/intelligence/embassy/military
source as a briefings to a Minister. Event happened in Dec 2023, but I
said to 'current' as I wondered if there were any followups.

Sorry I'll swap out "balloon" for "object", but with the areas mentioned
below.

"object" and "Yukon, Canada",
"object" and "Deadhorse, Alaska",
in the same documents from any government/intelligence/embassy/military
source as a briefings to a Minister.  Event happened in Feb 2023, but I
said to 'current' as I wondered if there were any followups.

I was just trying to make things easier for you guys but it seems I
haven't unfortunately, sorry about that.

Yours sincerely,

N. S. Hudson

-----Original Message-----

Kia Ora

Thank you for refining your request. There are just a few outstanding
questions which would help us to respond to you please:

Searching our records for "balloon" or "Balloons" will give us a very
large number of results - most of which are probably not what you are
seeking. For example it could include anything from weather balloons to
party balloons to the phrase "this has ballooned". Can you refine that
part of your request? Are you happy if we just search the phrase "Chinese
balloon"?

Similarly a search on "drones" will also return a very large number of
results. An initial, very preliminary search on this keyword returned
nearly 300 results. Partly this is because DPMC has business units that
work in disaster recovery and management and drones are used in this
context for assessing damage and checking for people or animals that need
rescuing. Can you refine the drone search a bit more? Is there a phrase
that would include the particular drones you are interested in that would
narrow things down?

Can you also be more specific in your request for "any documentation
received" - for example this will include everything sent from the public
and from other agencies - such as emails, OIA requests, ministerial
letters etc - which is a large amount of material to look through. Can
you, for example specify senders, types of documents (eg policy documents,
briefings to Ministers) and/or particular senders?

Regarding your last sentence: "any documentation created by a NZ
Government Employee or Contracted by the NZ Government, referencing either
of the above" - we only hold information created by employees of DPMC - we
cannot respond for all government agencies.

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Kia ora,

 

Please see the attached letter regarding your recent OIA request.

 

Ngā mihi,

 

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Ministerial Services
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Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet
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