Kia ora and thank you for contacting our team.

We will endeavour to respond to your request as soon as possible and in any event no later than 20 working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable to respond to your request by then, we will notify you of an extension to that timeframe.

Please note the Ministry for the Environment will release responses to selected OIA requests on our OIA responses page shortly after the response has been sent.

If you have any queries, please feel free to contact us.

Ngâ mihi nui

Executive Relations team
Ministry for the Environment – Manatû Mô Te Taiao
Email: [MFE request email] Website: www.mfe.govt.nz
23 Kate Sheppard Place, Thorndon, Wellington 6143

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnston <[FOI #11318 email]>
Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:55 PM
To: Ministerials <[MFE request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - Any records mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/or Kari Zeller

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Dear Ministry for the Environment,

Please provide any records (e.g. documents, emails, notes or minutes) mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/or Kari Zeller and/or Dr Roy Spencer as mentioned in the link below.

For context - so that you can correctly identify the individuals - some links relevant to their work are mentioned in the links below.
1) 2017 Peer Reviewed and Published Paper Describing How Earth's Long Term Average Temperature can be estimated from NASA data on other planets without referencing the composition of Earth's atmosphere. That is, the finding is that CO2 does not have an impact on the long term average temperature of Earth.
https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/...
2) Blog reply by Ned Nikolov in response to a critique by Dr Roy Spencer https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2019/01/...

Yours faithfully,

Chris Johnston

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Hi Chris,

Thank you for letting us know. We will update on our end and let our advisor working on this know.

Kind regards,

Executive Relations Team
Ministry for the Environment – Manatū Mō Te Taiao
Email: [MFE request email] Website: www.mfe.govt.nz 
23 Kate Sheppard Place, Thorndon, Wellington 6143

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnston <[FOI #11318 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 7:50 PM
To: Ministerials <[MFE request email]>
Subject: RE: Acknowledgement of request - Official Information request - Any records mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/or Kari Zeller 19-D-02214

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Dear Ministerials,

Please note that there is a spelling error in the original request.

Dr Zeller's name is Dr Karl Zeller not Dr Kari Zeller

Yours sincerely,

Chris Johnston

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Kia ora and thank you for contacting our team.

We will endeavour to respond to your request as soon as possible and in any event no later than 20 working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable to respond to your request by then, we will notify you of an extension to that timeframe.

Please note the Ministry for the Environment will release responses to selected OIA requests on our OIA responses page shortly after the response has been sent.

If you have any queries, please feel free to contact us.

Ngâ mihi nui

Executive Relations team
Ministry for the Environment – Manatû Mô Te Taiao
Email: [MFE request email] Website: www.mfe.govt.nz
23 Kate Sheppard Place, Thorndon, Wellington 6143

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Kia ora Chris.
Decision on your Official Information Act request.
Thank you for your email of 29 September 2019 requesting the following
under the Official Information Act 1982 (the Act):
Please provide any records (e.g. documents, emails, notes or minutes)
mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/or Kari Zeller and/or Dr Roy Spencer
as mentioned in the link below.
This email is to notify you of our decision on your request. The Ministry
for the Environment will be releasing the information you have requested –
the material is currently going through the Ministry’s finalisation
process.
Please note that some of the information to be released is withheld under
the following sections of the Act:
9(2)(a) to protect the privacy of natural persons.
18(d)   the documents are publicly available.
The response and material will be sent to you on 29 October 2019.  If you
wish to discuss this decision with us, please respond to this email.
 
 
 
 
Ngâ mihi nui
 
 
Debbie Bell –Executive Relations
Ministry for the Environment – Manatû Mô Te Taiao
Email: [1][MFE request email] Website: [2]www.mfe.govt.nz 
23 Kate Sheppard Place, Thorndon, Wellington 6143

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Kia ora Chris,

Please find attached the signed letter and material in response to your Official information Act requests dated 29 and 30 September 2019 found below. Please note that the Ministry for the Environment has combined three of these requests into one response and has answered the last (19-D-02218) as a standalone request.

This response is being sent to all four of the FYI links you have used in making this request.

Kind regards,
Curtis Hammond
Advisor
Ministry for the Environment

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From: Chris Johnston <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, 30 September 2019 1:03 AM
To: Ministerials <[MFE request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - Records mentioning climate activist Greta Thunberg or either of her parents, (Malena Ernman, Svante Thunberg)

Dear Ministry for the Environment,

Please provide any records (including but not limited to internal/external: documents, emails, notes, minutes, text messages, or social media messages) mentioning climate activist Greta Thunberg or either of her parents, (Malena Ernman, Svante Thunberg). I do not need copies of public news articles held.

For context - so that you can correctly identify the individual - some links relevant to her work are listed below:
This is the Wikipedia page outlining her activities:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thun...

Yours faithfully,

Chris Johnston

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Kia ora Chris,

 

 

Thank you for raising your concerns with the Ministry for the Environment
(the Ministry) regarding our response to your previous requests dated 30
October 2019. This email is to acknowledge your official information act
request dated 04 November 2019.

We will endeavour to respond to your request as soon as possible and in
any event no later than 20 working days after the day your request was
received. If we are unable to respond to your request by then, we will
notify you of an extension to that timeframe. The Ministry will answer the
operational questions you have posed in your request in our letter of
response. The Ministry will split our up our response as you have
requested.

Please note the Ministry for the Environment will release responses to
selected OIA requests on our OIA responses page
<[1]http://www.mfe.govt.nz/about-us/official...>
shortly after the response has been sent.

If you have any queries, please feel free to contact us.

Ngâ mihi nui

Executive Relations team

Ministry for the Environment – Manatû Mô Te Taiao
Email: [2][MFE request email] <[3]mailto:[MFE request email]>
Website: [4]www.mfe.govt.nz <[5]http://www.mfe.govt.nz/>
23 Kate Sheppard Place, Thorndon, Wellington 6143
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-----Original Message-----

From: Chris Johnston <[10][FOI #11318 email]>

Sent: Monday, 4 November 2019 9:27 AM

To: Ministerials <[11][MFE request email]>

Subject: Re: Signed response to your Official Information Act request
19-D-02218 Chris Johnston as well as 19-D-02214, 02217 and 02216

 

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Dear Ministerials,

 

Thanks for your reply.  There is a lot of useful information contained
within what has been returned but there are some problems with the way
that the response has been handled that need to be addressed.

 

1) Combined response - I asked for responses to be separate.  Combining
the responses makes it harder to establish whether the question has been
answered.  Please do not combine your responses to separate requests.  It
frustrates the requester and those people that may access this OIA request
at a later date. 

 

There may be occasions where this is appropriate, but you would only know
this by consulting with the requester.  Consulting with the requester is
required by the OIA - combining responses is not required.  Where you are
taking actions you need to consult.

 

Please separate out the MfEs responses to the OIAs - as they each stand on
their own.

 

2)  Excluding responses to the Select Committee that are publicly
available.  If you follow this link you will discover that he
Parliamentary Select Committee web page is only searchable by keyword of
the author - and not content.  Therefore I cannot even find submissions
that I know are there by searching for keywords included in the text.  For
example:
[12]https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/sc/submi...

 

So there is no effective or practical way for members of the public to
find the relevant information.  Please provide the responses that relate
to the information requested, or provide a response as to why this is not
an appropriate service to provide the NZ taxpayer - under the OIA or any
other duty/obligation?

 

A copy of the document is not necessary, but a link to the relevant
documents would be a cost/time effective way to fulfill this obligation
until such time as Parliamentary Services improves its search
functionality.

 

3) Information in previous OIAs excluded - I have previously submitted an
OIA but records mentioned in that OIA were not included in this one. 
[13]https://fyi.org.nz/request/9425-all-docu...

 

It seems that would be easier for people who might access the latest OIA
on the fyi.org.nz website (or where another citizen made an identical
request) that all records were listed and included.  This is what occurred
in the previous OIA where the 4 Oct 2018 document was linked to on the
website.  This document has not been included/listed this time but the 12
June 2017 document has (although the emailed response has not been
included this time).

 

Please state definitively whether the MfE excludes responses to previous
OIAs from subsequent OIA responses.

 

Can you please describe whether the MfE's policy for responding to OIAs
has changed since my previous OIA (in which case please forward the
guidance and related documents approving this change).

 

Please correct your response to this OIA (which legally stands on its own)
to make it more complete.

 

When correcting the MfE's response to make it more complete, please apply
the same logic when referencing the 4 Oct 2018 document to my item (2)
above and reference all relevant Select Committee submissions (and other
publicly available documents) held by the MfE.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Chris Johnston

 

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5. http://www.mfe.govt.nz/
7. https://www.facebook.com/ministryforthee...
8. https://www.linkedin.com/company/ministr...
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Kia ora Chris,

Please find attached a response to your 4 November 2019 request for official information.

Please note the Ministry for the Environment will release responses to selected OIA requests on our OIA responses page shortly after the response has been sent.

Ngā mihi nui
Curtis
Advisor
Ministry for the Environment

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnston <[FOI #11318 email]>
Sent: Monday, 4 November 2019 9:27 AM
To: Ministerials <[MFE request email]>
Subject: Re: Signed response to your Official Information Act request 19-D-02218 Chris Johnston as well as 19-D-02214, 02217 and 02216

Dear Ministerials,

Thanks for your reply. There is a lot of useful information contained within what has been returned but there are some problems with the way that the response has been handled that need to be addressed.

1) Combined response - I asked for responses to be separate. Combining the responses makes it harder to establish whether the question has been answered. Please do not combine your responses to separate requests. It frustrates the requester and those people that may access this OIA request at a later date.

There may be occasions where this is appropriate, but you would only know this by consulting with the requester. Consulting with the requester is required by the OIA - combining responses is not required. Where you are taking actions you need to consult.

Please separate out the MfEs responses to the OIAs - as they each stand on their own.

2) Excluding responses to the Select Committee that are publicly available. If you follow this link you will discover that he Parliamentary Select Committee web page is only searchable by keyword of the author - and not content. Therefore I cannot even find submissions that I know are there by searching for keywords included in the text. For example: https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/sc/submi...

So there is no effective or practical way for members of the public to find the relevant information. Please provide the responses that relate to the information requested, or provide a response as to why this is not an appropriate service to provide the NZ taxpayer - under the OIA or any other duty/obligation?

A copy of the document is not necessary, but a link to the relevant documents would be a cost/time effective way to fulfill this obligation until such time as Parliamentary Services improves its search functionality.

3) Information in previous OIAs excluded - I have previously submitted an OIA but records mentioned in that OIA were not included in this one. https://fyi.org.nz/request/9425-all-docu...

It seems that would be easier for people who might access the latest OIA on the fyi.org.nz website (or where another citizen made an identical request) that all records were listed and included. This is what occurred in the previous OIA where the 4 Oct 2018 document was linked to on the website. This document has not been included/listed this time but the 12 June 2017 document has (although the emailed response has not been included this time).

Please state definitively whether the MfE excludes responses to previous OIAs from subsequent OIA responses.

Can you please describe whether the MfE's policy for responding to OIAs has changed since my previous OIA (in which case please forward the guidance and related documents approving this change).

Please correct your response to this OIA (which legally stands on its own) to make it more complete.

When correcting the MfE's response to make it more complete, please apply the same logic when referencing the 4 Oct 2018 document to my item (2) above and reference all relevant Select Committee submissions (and other publicly available documents) held by the MfE.

Yours sincerely,

Chris Johnston

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Kia ora Chris,

 

Please find attached a response to your 29 September 2019 request for
official information. This was sent to you on 2 December 2019 but due to
the file size the response did not send.

 

This is part one of our response, due to the file size these documents
have been split into two parts. Part one contains documents 1 – 9.
Documents 10 – 27 can be found in part two which will be sent to you in an
email directly following this email.

 

Please note the Ministry for the Environment will release responses to
selected OIA requests on our OIA responses page shortly after the response
has been sent.

 

Apologies for the delay in our response.

 

If you have any questions please contact [1][MFE request email]

 

Ngâ mihi nui

Curtis

Advisor

Ministry for the Environment

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Chris Johnston <[2][FOI #11318 email]>

Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:55 PM

To: Ministerials <[3][MFE request email]>

Subject: Official Information request - Any records mentioning scientists
Ned Nikolov and/or Kari Zeller

 

MFE CYBER SECURITY WARNING

This email originated from outside our organisation. Please take extra
care when clicking on any links or opening any attachments.

 

Dear Ministry for the Environment,

 

Please provide any records (e.g. documents, emails, notes or minutes)
mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/or Kari Zeller and/or Dr Roy Spencer
as mentioned in the link below.

 

For context - so that you can correctly identify the individuals - some
links relevant to their work are mentioned in the links below.

1) 2017 Peer Reviewed and Published Paper Describing How Earth's Long Term
Average Temperature can be estimated from NASA data on other planets
without referencing the composition of Earth's atmosphere.  That is, the
finding is that CO2 does not have an impact on the long term average
temperature of Earth.

[4]https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/...

2) Blog reply by Ned Nikolov in response to a critique by Dr Roy Spencer
[5]https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2019/01/...

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Chris Johnston

 

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Ngâ mihi

 

Curtis Hammond, Advisor

Executive Relations Team
Ministry for the Environment – Manatû Mô Te Taiao
Email: [10][email address]              Website:
[11]www.mfe.govt.nz 
23 Kate Sheppard Place, PO Box 10362, Wellington 6143
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Kia ora Chris,

 

Please find attached a response to your 29 September 2019 request for
official information. This was sent to you on 2 December 2019 but due to
the file size the response did not send.

 

This is part two of our response, due to the file size these documents
have been split into two parts. Part one contains documents 1 – 9.
Documents 10 – 27 can be found in this email.

 

Please note the Ministry for the Environment will release responses to
selected OIA requests on our OIA responses page shortly after the response
has been sent.

 

Apologies for the delay in our response.

 

If you have any questions please contact [1][MFE request email]

 

Ngâ mihi nui

Curtis

Advisor

Ministry for the Environment

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Chris Johnston <[2][FYI request #11318 email]>

Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:55 PM

To: Ministerials <[3][MFE request email]>

Subject: Official Information request - Any records mentioning scientists
Ned Nikolov and/or Kari Zeller

 

MFE CYBER SECURITY WARNING

This email originated from outside our organisation. Please take extra
care when clicking on any links or opening any attachments.

 

Dear Ministry for the Environment,

 

Please provide any records (e.g. documents, emails, notes or minutes)
mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/or Kari Zeller and/or Dr Roy Spencer
as mentioned in the link below.

 

For context - so that you can correctly identify the individuals - some
links relevant to their work are mentioned in the links below.

1) 2017 Peer Reviewed and Published Paper Describing How Earth's Long Term
Average Temperature can be estimated from NASA data on other planets
without referencing the composition of Earth's atmosphere.  That is, the
finding is that CO2 does not have an impact on the long term average
temperature of Earth.

[4]https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/...

2) Blog reply by Ned Nikolov in response to a critique by Dr Roy Spencer
[5]https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2019/01/...

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Chris Johnston

 

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Please use this email address for all replies to this request:

[6][FYI request #11318 email]

 

Is [7][MFE request email] the wrong address for Official Information
requests to Ministry for the Environment? If so, please contact us using
this form:

[8]https://fyi.org.nz/change_request/new?bo...

 

Disclaimer: This message and any reply that you make will be published on
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[9]https://fyi.org.nz/help/officers

 

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page.

 

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Please Note: The information contained in this e-mail message and any
attached files may be confid*ential information, and may also be the
subject of legal professional privilege. It is not necessarily the
official view of the Ministry for the Environment. If you are not the
intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this e-mail is
unauthorised. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us
immediately by reply e-mail and delete the original. Thank you.

 

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6. mailto:[FYI request #11318 email]
7. mailto:[MFE request email]
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Kia ora Chris,

Please find attached as requested in Item A, document 1 split into parts A and B. In this email you will find part 1 A.
Please note that document 7 has been split into parts A and B as it is a substantive submission.

We will be in touch regarding your questions for Item B in your email below.

Thanks,

Charlotte Hoffman – Ministerial Coordinator
Ministry for the Environment – Manatū Mō Te Taiao
Email: [MFE request email] Website: www.mfe.govt.nz 
23 Kate Sheppard Place, Thorndon, Wellington 6143

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnston <[FOI #11318 email]>
Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 9:33 AM
To: Ministerials <[MFE request email]>
Subject: Re: 19-D-02214 Chris Johnston (Any records mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/ or Kari Zeller) (part two)

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Dear Ministerials,

Thanks for the information to date.

A couple of requests – these can be executed separately if ITEM B is going to take another person some time to consider as a legal matter (vs the simple administrative effort to split a pdf already cleared for release which is the substance of ITEM A):

ITEM A) UNREADABLE ATTACHMENT
The Part 1 pdf attachment is unable to be opened. It has taken me a few days to get to this one so apologies for coming back to you late on this.

The attachment 19 D 02214 Chris Johnston compiled information vFinal 004 Part2.pdf is readable.

Can you please split the following attachment into a 1a and 1b?
19 D 02214 Chris Johnston compiled information vFinal 004 Part1.pdf

ITEM B) RELATED DOCUMENTS
Note that I have not been able to read the Part 1 document above…. so my questions below are in response to your letter 19 D 02214 Chris Johnston letter vFinal.pdf which mentioned that:

“The response did not include reference to the names in your request, so is not in scope”

Could you please clarify the interpretation that is being applied of a Record and what is in scope to this request? Specifically:
1. An email trail that includes previous emails should be included where any of the emails in the chain mention the key words. The definition of a Record in the Public Records Act 2005 mentions the “original form”.
2. I argue that
2.1. An email as sent in its original form is one record (Record A), and the reply (which included the original email) was a second record (Record B).
2.2. For the purposes of efficiency I am happy for the reply (Record B that includes the original Record A) to be treated as one (that is send only Record B) when responding to an OIA, but
2.3. It is not compliant with the OIA or Public Records Act definitions to omit Record B and only send Record A.
3. Please confirm whether the response to this OIA has used the logic in (2.1 &2.2) or 2.3 above?
4. Please apply the logic in 2.2 above to this OIA in a revised response…… or state that the MfE will not …. or state that the MfE has already applied the logic in 2.2 in the Part 1 document that I cannot read.

Yours sincerely,

Chris Johnston

-----Original Message-----

Kia ora Chris,

 

Please find attached a response to your 29 September 2019 request for official information. This was sent to you on 2 December 2019 but due to the file size the response did not send.

 

This is part two of our response, due to the file size these documents have been split into two parts. Part one contains documents 1 – 9.
Documents 10 – 27 can be found in this email.

 

Please note the Ministry for the Environment will release responses to selected OIA requests on our OIA responses page shortly after the response has been sent.

 

Apologies for the delay in our response.

 

If you have any questions please contact [1][MFE request email]

 

Ngâ mihi nui

Curtis

Advisor

Ministry for the Environment

 

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Kia ora Chris,

Following the first email, please find attached as requested in Item A, document 1 split into parts A and B. In this email you will find part B.
Please note that document 7 has been split into parts A and B as it is a substantive submission.

Thanks,

Charlotte Hoffman – Ministerial Coordinator
Ministry for the Environment – Manatū Mō Te Taiao
Email: [MFE request email] Website: www.mfe.govt.nz 
23 Kate Sheppard Place, Thorndon, Wellington 6143

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnston <[FOI #11318 email]>
Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 9:33 AM
To: Ministerials <[MFE request email]>
Subject: Re: 19-D-02214 Chris Johnston (Any records mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/ or Kari Zeller) (part two)

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Dear Ministerials,

Thanks for the information to date.

A couple of requests – these can be executed separately if ITEM B is going to take another person some time to consider as a legal matter (vs the simple administrative effort to split a pdf already cleared for release which is the substance of ITEM A):

ITEM A) UNREADABLE ATTACHMENT
The Part 1 pdf attachment is unable to be opened. It has taken me a few days to get to this one so apologies for coming back to you late on this.

The attachment 19 D 02214 Chris Johnston compiled information vFinal 004 Part2.pdf is readable.

Can you please split the following attachment into a 1a and 1b?
19 D 02214 Chris Johnston compiled information vFinal 004 Part1.pdf

ITEM B) RELATED DOCUMENTS
Note that I have not been able to read the Part 1 document above…. so my questions below are in response to your letter 19 D 02214 Chris Johnston letter vFinal.pdf which mentioned that:

“The response did not include reference to the names in your request, so is not in scope”

Could you please clarify the interpretation that is being applied of a Record and what is in scope to this request? Specifically:
1. An email trail that includes previous emails should be included where any of the emails in the chain mention the key words. The definition of a Record in the Public Records Act 2005 mentions the “original form”.
2. I argue that
2.1. An email as sent in its original form is one record (Record A), and the reply (which included the original email) was a second record (Record B).
2.2. For the purposes of efficiency I am happy for the reply (Record B that includes the original Record A) to be treated as one (that is send only Record B) when responding to an OIA, but
2.3. It is not compliant with the OIA or Public Records Act definitions to omit Record B and only send Record A.
3. Please confirm whether the response to this OIA has used the logic in (2.1 &2.2) or 2.3 above?
4. Please apply the logic in 2.2 above to this OIA in a revised response…… or state that the MfE will not …. or state that the MfE has already applied the logic in 2.2 in the Part 1 document that I cannot read.

Yours sincerely,

Chris Johnston

-----Original Message-----

Kia ora Chris,

 

Please find attached a response to your 29 September 2019 request for official information. This was sent to you on 2 December 2019 but due to the file size the response did not send.

 

This is part two of our response, due to the file size these documents have been split into two parts. Part one contains documents 1 – 9.
Documents 10 – 27 can be found in this email.

 

Please note the Ministry for the Environment will release responses to selected OIA requests on our OIA responses page shortly after the response has been sent.

 

Apologies for the delay in our response.

 

If you have any questions please contact [1][MFE request email]

 

Ngâ mihi nui

Curtis

Advisor

Ministry for the Environment

 

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Kia ora Chris,

Please find attached a response to your further inquiry dated 8 December regarding the response provided to you by the Ministry for the Environment with the tracking number 19-D-02214.

Please note that this response is solely to address item B) of your below email as the Ministry for the Environment has received confirmation from you that item A) of your email has now been addressed and you can now access the document in question.

Kind regards,

Curtis Hammond, Advisor
Executive Relations Team
Ministry for the Environment – Manatū Mō Te Taiao
Website: www.mfe.govt.nz 
23 Kate Sheppard Place, PO Box 10362, Wellington 6143

From: Chris Johnston <[FOI #11318 email]>
Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 9:33 AM
To: Ministerials <[MFE request email]>
Subject: Re: 19-D-02214 Chris Johnston (Any records mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/ or Kari Zeller) (part two)

Dear Ministerials,

Thanks for the information to date.

A couple of requests – these can be executed separately if ITEM B is going to take another person some time to consider as a legal matter (vs the simple administrative effort to split a pdf already cleared for release which is the substance of ITEM A):

ITEM A) UNREADABLE ATTACHMENT
The Part 1 pdf attachment is unable to be opened. It has taken me a few days to get to this one so apologies for coming back to you late on this.

The attachment 19 D 02214 Chris Johnston compiled information vFinal 004 Part2.pdf is readable.

Can you please split the following attachment into a 1a and 1b?
19 D 02214 Chris Johnston compiled information vFinal 004 Part1.pdf

ITEM B) RELATED DOCUMENTS
Note that I have not been able to read the Part 1 document above…. so my questions below are in response to your letter 19 D 02214 Chris Johnston letter vFinal.pdf which mentioned that:

“The response did not include reference to the names in your request, so is not in scope”

Could you please clarify the interpretation that is being applied of a Record and what is in scope to this request? Specifically:
1. An email trail that includes previous emails should be included where any of the emails in the chain mention the key words. The definition of a Record in the Public Records Act 2005 mentions the “original form”.
2. I argue that
2.1. An email as sent in its original form is one record (Record A), and the reply (which included the original email) was a second record (Record B).
2.2. For the purposes of efficiency I am happy for the reply (Record B that includes the original Record A) to be treated as one (that is send only Record B) when responding to an OIA, but
2.3. It is not compliant with the OIA or Public Records Act definitions to omit Record B and only send Record A.
3. Please confirm whether the response to this OIA has used the logic in (2.1 &2.2) or 2.3 above?
4. Please apply the logic in 2.2 above to this OIA in a revised response…… or state that the MfE will not …. or state that the MfE has already applied the logic in 2.2 in the Part 1 document that I cannot read.

Yours sincerely,

Chris Johnston

-----Original Message-----

Kia ora Chris,

 

Please find attached a response to your 29 September 2019 request for official information. This was sent to you on 2 December 2019 but due to the file size the response did not send.

 

This is part two of our response, due to the file size these documents have been split into two parts. Part one contains documents 1 – 9.
Documents 10 – 27 can be found in this email.

 

Please note the Ministry for the Environment will release responses to selected OIA requests on our OIA responses page shortly after the response has been sent.

 

Apologies for the delay in our response.

 

If you have any questions please contact [1][MFE request email]

 

Ngâ mihi nui

Curtis

Advisor

Ministry for the Environment

 

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Kia ora Chris,

Thank you for your email.

Your feedback has been passed on to the team.

Ngā mihi,
Curtis

From: Chris Johnston <[FOI #11318 email]>
Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2020 9:32 PM
To: Ministerials <[MFE request email]>
Subject: Re: 19-D-02214/ 02509 Chris Johnston (Any records mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/ or Kari Zeller)

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Dear Ministerials,

Thanks for the response and information. Everything can be read - so I will close off this OIA.

In many ways this is the most disturbing of my OIAs that the Ministry for the Environment has responded to. This is because:
1) The MfE has got the completeness of its response wrong – twice
a. The original OIA – where the correspondence with the responder was omitted https://fyi.org.nz/request/9425-all-docu... and
b. This OIA – where the response to the member of the public was originally omitted, and upon outlining the requirements of the law in the OIA and Public Records Act, we finally get a more complete view.
2) The lack of evidence of due diligence and consulting scientific expertise in determining how the Nikoliov/Zeller published paper and findings impact on advice being given to Parliament and the wider NZ public by the MfE. Specifically no formal review or opinion was sought:
a. When the matter was first raised with the MFE
b. After my original OIA request
c. When a Zero Carbon Bill Select Committee submission highlighted that there is no evidence of professional scientific advice being sought by MfE
d. During the process of this OIA.

One would think, that for a “Carbon Free” initiative costing trillions of dollars to the New Zealand economy, there might be some documentary evidence of all the i’s and t’s being crossed – if it existed.

I request that:
1) This OIA and lack of due diligence be highlighted to the Chair of the New Climate Change Commission. As an ex-Reserve Bank Governor he should be well aware of the:
a. Documentary standard required before damaging actions on the New Zealand economy are undertaken.
b. Scientific caveats that need to be considered when assessing the real risk of climate damage. This published peer reviewed 2017 paper identifies that long term temperatures are stable – so any climate changes must be cyclic – and therefore many IPCC runaway warming scenarios are less (or not) likely.
2) Formal scientific and policy advice be sought and documented by the MfE and/or the Climate Change Commission on the Nikolov/Zeller published paper. This will cover your organisation and the State from future prosecution or embarrassment.

Thank you for your efforts on answering this OIA. This can be uncomfortable and administratively burdensome. I will follow up again on your progress.

Kind regards
Chris Johnston

-----Original Message-----

Kia ora Chris,

Please find attached a response to your further inquiry dated 8 December regarding the response provided to you by the Ministry for the Environment with the tracking number 19-D-02214.

Please note that this response is solely to address item B) of your below email as the Ministry for the Environment has received confirmation from you that item A) of your email has now been addressed and you can now access the document in question.

Kind regards,

Curtis Hammond, Advisor
Executive Relations Team
Ministry for the Environment – Manatū Mō Te Taiao
Website: www.mfe.govt.nz
23 Kate Sheppard Place, PO Box 10362, Wellington 6143

From: Chris Johnston <[FOI #11318 email]>
Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 9:33 AM
To: Ministerials <[MFE request email]>
Subject: Re: 19-D-02214 Chris Johnston (Any records mentioning scientists Ned Nikolov and/ or Kari Zeller) (part two)

Dear Ministerials,

Thanks for the information to date.

A couple of requests – these can be executed separately if ITEM B is going to take another person some time to consider as a legal matter (vs the simple administrative effort to split a pdf already cleared for release which is the substance of ITEM A):

ITEM A) UNREADABLE ATTACHMENT
The Part 1 pdf attachment is unable to be opened. It has taken me a few days to get to this one so apologies for coming back to you late on this.

The attachment 19 D 02214 Chris Johnston compiled information vFinal 004 Part2.pdf is readable.

Can you please split the following attachment into a 1a and 1b?
19 D 02214 Chris Johnston compiled information vFinal 004 Part1.pdf

ITEM B) RELATED DOCUMENTS
Note that I have not been able to read the Part 1 document above…. so my questions below are in response to your letter 19 D 02214 Chris Johnston letter vFinal.pdf which mentioned that:

“The response did not include reference to the names in your request, so is not in scope”

Could you please clarify the interpretation that is being applied of a Record and what is in scope to this request? Specifically:
1. An email trail that includes previous emails should be included where any of the emails in the chain mention the key words. The definition of a Record in the Public Records Act 2005 mentions the “original form”.
2. I argue that
2.1. An email as sent in its original form is one record (Record A), and the reply (which included the original email) was a second record (Record B).
2.2. For the purposes of efficiency I am happy for the reply (Record B that includes the original Record A) to be treated as one (that is send only Record B) when responding to an OIA, but
2.3. It is not compliant with the OIA or Public Records Act definitions to omit Record B and only send Record A.
3. Please confirm whether the response to this OIA has used the logic in (2.1 &2.2) or 2.3 above?
4. Please apply the logic in 2.2 above to this OIA in a revised response…… or state that the MfE will not …. or state that the MfE has already applied the logic in 2.2 in the Part 1 document that I cannot read.

Yours sincerely,

Chris Johnston

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