Evidence requirements for attempts to recruit New Zealanders.
F Taylor made this Official Information request to Kris Faafoi
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From: F Taylor
Dear Kris Faafoi,
I would like to know how immigration NZ perform the following work:
"The content of your job advertisements and offer must not discourage New Zealand workers from applying. Otherwise a work visa application will be declined.
Immigration New Zealand will check whether New Zealand workers were unwilling to take up the job because of the terms and conditions of your offer, like pay or hours of work."
(From this page https://www.immigration.govt.nz/employ-m...)
Specifically:
How does INZ find the pay offer for job listings on websites where the salary is often hidden, like linkedin or seek.co.nz?
How does INZ determine what is appropriate pay for the role? e.g. What salary and income data is used to compare the pay offer to to assess if it's fair?
Yours faithfully,
Fred
From: K Faafoi (MIN)
Kris Faafoi
Kia ora,
On behalf of Hon Kris Faafoi, thank you for your email.
While the Minister considers all correspondence to be important, and all
messages are carefully read and considered, it is not always possible to
personally reply to all emails. As such, the following guidelines apply:
· Invitations and meeting requests will be processed as soon as
possible and a staff member will be in contact with you in due course
· All media queries will be responded to by a staff member
· Requests for official information will be managed in accordance
with the provisions of the Official Information Act 1982, which may
include transfer to a more relevant Minister or agency
· If your email falls outside of the Minister’s portfolio
responsibilities, expresses a personal view, or is copied to multiple
Members of Parliament, then your opinion will be noted and your
correspondence may be transferred to another office, or there may be no
further response to you
Thank you for the taking the time to write.
Nga mihi,
Office of Hon Kris Faafoi
Minister of Justice, Minister of Immigration, Minister for Broadcasting
and Media
Private Bag 18041 | Parliament Buildings | Wellington 6160 | New Zealand
Authorised by Hon Kris Faafoi MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6011
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From: K Faafoi (MIN)
Kris Faafoi
Dear Fred
On behalf of Hon Kris Faafoi, Minister for Broadcasting and Media, Minister of Immigration, and Minister of Jusitce, I acknowledge receipt of your email requesting information under Section 12 of the Official Information Act 1982.
Your request was received in this Office on 25 March 2021 and will be responded to under the provisions of the Official Information Act.
Yours sincerely
Office of Hon Kris Faafoi
Minister for Broadcasting and Media, Minister of Immigration, Minister of Justice
Executive Wing | Private Bag 18041 | Parliament Buildings | Wellington 6160 | New Zealand
Authorised by Hon Kris Faafoi MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6011
Disclaimer: Please note information about meetings or events related to the Minister's portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal or constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would list: date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for a copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it to be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you'd like to ask for a copy of your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...
Disclaimer: The information in this email (including attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this email, please notify the author by replying to this email and destroy the message. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful.
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From: Hannah O'Brien
Dear Fred
We refer to your official information request dated 25 March 2021
o I would like to know how immigration NZ perform the following work:
"The content of your job advertisements and offer must not discourage
New Zealand workers from applying. Otherwise a work visa application
will be declined.
Immigration New Zealand will check whether New Zealand workers were
unwilling to take up the job because of the terms and conditions of
your offer, like pay or hours of work."
(From this page
[1]https://www.immigration.govt.nz/employ-m...
<[2]https://www.immigration.govt.nz/employ-m...>)
Specifically:
How does INZ find the pay offer for job listings on websites where the
salary is often hidden, like linkedin or seek.co.nz?
How does INZ determine what is appropriate pay for the role? e.g. What
salary and income data is used to compare the pay offer to assess if
it's fair?.
We have transferred your request to the Ministry of Business, Innovation
and Employment, MBIE. The information you request relates to an
operational matter which is more closely connected with the functions of
MBIE. In these circumstances, we are required by section 14 of the
Official Information Act to transfer your request.
You will hear further from MBIE concerning your request.
Ngâ mihi
Office of Hon Kris Faafoi MP
Minister of Broadcasting, Minister of Justice, Minister of Immigration.
Private Bag 18041 | Parliament Buildings | Wellington 6160 | New Zealand
Authorised by Hon Kris Faafoi MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6011
Email disclaimer:
Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’
portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal or
constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would list:
date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the
meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the
Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will
be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet
with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be
released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a
private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the
provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy
considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for a
copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it to
be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy of
your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the
release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the
sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at
[3]https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...
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being granted.
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Please notify the sender immediately and erase all copies of the message
and all attachments. Thank you.
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2. https://www.immigration.govt.nz/employ-m...
3. https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...
From: Ministerial Services
Ref: 2021-1918
Dear Fred,
On behalf of the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment I
acknowledge your email of 25^th March 2021 requesting under the Official
Information Act 1982 (the Act), the following:
I would like to know how immigration NZ perform the following work: "The
content of your job advertisements and offer must not discourage New
Zealand workers from applying. Otherwise a work visa application will be
declined. Immigration New Zealand will check whether New Zealand workers
were unwilling to take up the job because of the terms and conditions of
your offer, like pay or hours of work." (From this page
[1]https://www.immigration.govt.nz/employ-m...
)
Specifically: How does INZ find the pay offer for job listings on websites
where the salary is often hidden, like linkedin or seek.co.nz? How does
INZ determine what is appropriate pay for the role? e.g. What salary and
income data is used to compare the pay offer to assess if it's fair?.
Your request has been transferred to the Ministry from the Office of Hon
Kris Faafoi on 29th March 2021 and is being processed in accordance with
the Official Information Act 1982. A response will be sent to you in due
course. If you have any enquiries regarding your request feel free to
contact us via email [2][email address] or using the contact details
below.
Nāku noa, nā
MINISTERIAL SERVICES
Corporate, Governance and Information
Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment
Level 4, 15 Stout Street, PO Box 1473, Wellington 6140
NZBN 9429000106078
[3]www.govt.nz - your guide to finding and using New Zealand government
services
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1. https://www.immigration.govt.nz/employ-m...
2. mailto:[email address]
3. http://www.govt.nz/
From: Dongrui Pang
Kia ora
I’m writing in regards to your request under the Official Information Act
1982.
Under the Official Information Act 1982, requests can only be made by;
Any person, being
a New Zealand citizen; or
a permanent resident of New Zealand; or
a person who is in New Zealand; or
a body corporate which is incorporated in New Zealand; or
a body corporate which is incorporated outside of new Zealand but which
has a place of business in New Zealand,
From the information you have provided in your request it is unclear that
you are entitled to make an Official Information Act request.
Before we can proceed with your request you will need to provide
evidence that you are entitled to make a request. Any supporting
information can be provided confidentially to me via email.
If you have not provided suitable evidence within 3 working days, we will
close the request.
Kind regards
Dongrui Pang
Business Advisor
Operations Support, Border & Visa Operations
Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment
[1][email address] | Telephone: +64 (04) 8965320
[2]www.immigration.govt.nz
NZBN 9429000106078
[3]www.govt.nz - your guide to finding and using New Zealand government
services
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1. mailto:[email address]
2. http://www.immigration.govt.nz/
3. http://www.govt.nz/
From: F Taylor
Dear Dongrui Pang,
Unfortunately fyi.org.nz has removed your email address from the correspondence so I can't email you.
(explanation here: https://fyi.org.nz/help/officers#mobiles )
I have requested your email from fyi.org.nz and will send through a photo of my passport ASAP. Please do not close this request in the meantime.
Yours sincerely,
F Taylor
From: Dongrui Pang
Morena,
Thanks for your response, I'll await for your email.
Kind regards
Dongrui Pang
Business Advisor
Operations Support, Border & Visa Operations
Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment
[email address] | Telephone: +64 (04) 8965320
www.immigration.govt.nz
NZBN 9429000106078
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From: Dongrui Pang
Kia ora
We have not received evidence of your entitlement for OIA requests. Please provide the evidence by 12 April 2021. We'll close the request if you are unable to provide it.
Kind regards
Dongrui Pang
Business Advisor
Operations Support, Border & Visa Operations Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment [email address] | Telephone: +64 (04) 8965320 www.immigration.govt.nz
NZBN 9429000106078
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From: F Taylor
Dear Dongrui Pang,
I sent a photo of my NZ passport to your email as evidence I'm eligible to make an OIA request.
Yours sincerely,
F Taylor
From: Dongrui Pang
Dear Fred Taylor
We have received your email and thanks for providing the evidence of eligibility. We'll proceed your OIA request in due course.
Regards
Dongrui Pang
Business Advisor
Operations Support, Border & Visa Operations
Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment
[email address] | Telephone: +64 (04) 8965320
www.immigration.govt.nz
NZBN 9429000106078
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From: Dongrui Pang
Kia ora!
Please find attached or response to your OIA request.
Kind regards
Dongrui Pang
Business Advisor
Operations Support, Border & Visa Operations
Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment
[1][email address] | Telephone: +64 (04) 8965320
[2]www.immigration.govt.nz
NZBN 9429000106078
[3]www.govt.nz - your guide to finding and using New Zealand government
services
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References
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1. mailto:[email address]
2. http://www.immigration.govt.nz/
3. http://www.govt.nz/
From: F Taylor
Dear Dongrui Pang,
Three of the four links in the response are not accessible. They appear to be MBIE intranet locations. Please provide the information in a way that those outside of MBIE can access.
Yours sincerely,
F Taylor
From: Dongrui Pang
Dear Mr Taylor
Please find the following links
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanua...
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/document...
kind regards
Dongrui Pang
Business Advisor
Operations Support, Border & Visa Operations Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment
NZBN 9429000106078
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Well, that appears to be a particularly unhelpful response. Three of the four links provided look to be internal MBIE Intranet links.
At least the links are live I suppose.
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