Covid19 vaccination and natural death rates
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From: Vonny Marsh
Dear Ministry of Health,
The latest safety report completed by Medsafe #23 dated 7th August provides a total number of deaths reported as 26. This is up four from report #22 dated 31 July.
The reporting states that "15 of these deaths are unlikely related to the COVID-19 vaccine".
It then goes on to say
"By chance, some people will experience new illnesses or die from a pre-existing condition shortly after vaccination, especially if they are elderly. Therefore, part of our review process includes comparing natural death rates to observed death rates following vaccination, to determine if there are any specific trends or patterns that might indicate a vaccine safety concern. There are currently no indications to suggest that the vaccine caused the deaths. To date, the observed number of deaths reported after vaccination is actually less than the expected number of deaths"
I see someone recently submitted a request to get clarification on this statement. I was following this request.
Please clarify
1. What the expected number of deaths are? (Refering to last sentence quoted above)
2. What number of deaths post vaccination would need to be reported to trigger a concern?
Yours faithfully,
Vonny Marsh
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From: Vonny Marsh <[FOI #16588 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 15:51
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Covid19 vaccination and natural
death rates
Dear Ministry of Health,
The latest safety report completed by Medsafe #23 dated 7th August
provides a total number of deaths reported as 26. This is up four from
report #22 dated 31 July.
The reporting states that "15 of these deaths are unlikely related to the
COVID-19 vaccine".
It then goes on to say
"By chance, some people will experience new illnesses or die from a
pre-existing condition shortly after vaccination, especially if they are
elderly. Therefore, part of our review process includes comparing natural
death rates to observed death rates following vaccination, to determine if
there are any specific trends or patterns that might indicate a vaccine
safety concern. There are currently no indications to suggest that the
vaccine caused the deaths. To date, the observed number of deaths reported
after vaccination is actually less than the expected number of deaths"
I see someone recently submitted a request to get clarification on this
statement. I was following this request.
Please clarify
1. What the expected number of deaths are? (Refering to last sentence
quoted above)
2. What number of deaths post vaccination would need to be reported to
trigger a concern?
Yours faithfully,
Vonny Marsh
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victor left an annotation ()
Leaving aside the disregard for human life that 749 deaths don't qualify for the medsafe assessment process.
749 deaths count only toward a calculation formula used to create a false perception.
Leaving aside that officially 86 deaths following comirnaty are confirmed by medsafe with a 3 week lag and an unquantified underreporting rate.
Background rates are groups of historical human lives lost for which the data sets are also quality substandard.
Not a single comirnaty injected statistic among the background rates data.
Medsafe and MOH are making a claim that being injected with the mrna product is associated with lower mortality rates.
Medsafe and MOH have been operating this scheme an extended period time.
Will people figure it out.
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Chuck Schooner (Account suspended) left an annotation ()
Hi Vonny,
Here is the link to the Medsafe Reporting on observed deaths versus expected.
https://medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-...
Though there have been 749 deaths within 21 days of vaccine administration (note this number is now dated so expect there to be more) none of these deaths are being investigated as they are put down to a co-morbidity or a new illness triggered by the vaccine. Add to this the now 86 on the deaths reporting but all of them seem to be under investigation, not enough info or not related. It’s amazing that out of 835 people dying only one is vaccine related and we know that because the vaccine is safe and effective.
Link to this