Please Provide "Out of Scope" Portions Redacted From SROIA 032
M Bell made this Official Information request to Shane Reti
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From: M Bell
Dear Shane Reti,
Further to your OIA response SROIA 032 (documents 2 and 3), please provide the rest of the emails previously designated as “out of scope” with respect to the specific question I had previously asked.
For clarity the document 2 email is printed showing.
Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2023 5:16pm
Subject: Email from S9(2)(a)
Please also provide the attachments that were listed.
For clarity the document 3 email is printed showing.
Sent: Friday, 1 December 2023 9:42 am
Subject: FW: DISCLOSURE incident - approach for a proactive release
Please provide these email documents with the "out of scope" sections displayed and including the attachments.
Yours faithfully,
M Bell
From: Shane Reti (MIN)
Shane Reti
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From: Shane Reti (MIN)
Shane Reti
Kia ora,
Thank you for your request for official information under the Official
Information Act 1982 (the Act) to the Office of Hon Dr Shane Reti. You
requested:
Further to your OIA response SROIA 032 (documents 2 and 3), please provide
the rest of the emails previously designated as “out of scope” with
respect to the specific question I had previously asked.
For clarity the document 2 email is printed showing.
Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2023 5:16pm
Subject: Email from S9(2)(a)
Please also provide the attachments that were listed.
For clarity the document 3 email is printed showing.
Sent: Friday, 1 December 2023 9:42 am
Subject: FW: DISCLOSURE incident - approach for a proactive release
Please provide these email documents with the "out of scope" sections
displayed and including the attachments.
The reference number for your request is: SROIA-244
As required under the Official Information Act 1982, the Office will
endeavour to respond to your request no later than 20 working days after
the day your request was received. You can expect a response by 18
September 2024.
Under section 28(3) of the Act you have the right to ask the Ombudsman to
review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be
contacted by email at: [1][email address] or by calling 0800
802 602.
Ngā mihi
Office of Hon Dr Shane Reti
Minister of Health
Minister for Pacific Peoples
Email: [2][email address]
Private Bag 18041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New Zealand
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From: Shane Reti (MIN)
Shane Reti
Kia ora M Bell
Please find the response to your request for information attached.
Ngā mihi
Office of Hon Dr Shane Reti
Minister of Health
Minister for Pacific Peoples
Email: [1][email address]
Private Bag 18041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New Zealand
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From: M Bell
Dear Shane Reti (MIN),
I asked for the sections previously deemed “out of scope” in documents 2 and 3 to be provided. Lots of issues with your response:
1. You gave me document 1 again which was not requested.
2. You supplied document 2 again without supplying the “out of scope” sections and also not providing the attachments.
3. You provided document 3 unredacting 5 sentences below, which appear to be clearly within the scope of my previous request.
4. Then you redacted some information that was previously supplied, also in scope.
5. You state that the remaining information remains out of scope from my current request without providing justification for the claim.
Allow me remind you again of my request which was “please provide these email documents with the “out of scope” sections displayed and including the attachments”. Therefore I can conclude the following:
A. that you have not provided a reason to refuse my current request on the basis that it is out of scope, as my direct request has made it in scope.
B. that you did not properly comply with my earlier request deeming some in scope sections as "out of scope"
Hence, please provide the remainder of this information requested or a valid reason for refusal by the due date of Sept 18.
Yours sincerely,
M Bell
From: Shane Reti (MIN)
Shane Reti
Kia ora,
Please find the response to your follow up request for information
attached.
Ngā mihi
Office of Hon Dr Shane Reti
Minister of Health
Minister for Pacific Peoples
Email: [1][email address]
Private Bag 18041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New Zealand
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From: M Bell
Dear Shane Reti (MIN),
As already stated I have made the request in scope by being very specific about what I am asking for and hence have 100% made the request with “due particularity” as per OIA 1982 Part 2 Section 12(2), therefore you are not able to legitimately refuse it on that basis.
There is already a complaint that has been made with the ombudsman about this, case number already allocated, you will be hearing from them in due course.
Yours sincerely,
M Bell
From: Shane Reti (MIN)
Shane Reti
Kia ora M Bell
Please find a reconsidered response to your request for information
attached.
Ngā mihi
Office of Hon Dr Shane Reti
Minister of Health
Minister for Pacific Peoples
Email: [1][email address]
Private Bag 18041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New Zealand
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From: M Bell
Dear Shane Reti (MIN),
Appears that you have been compelled by the ombudsman to unredact some of the sections of correspondence that were previously claimed to be out of scope, yet you have now still withheld by redaction other sections by reclassifying as withheld under 9(2)(a), 9(2)(g)(ii), 9(2)(h) and 6(c) of the OIA.
Since it is clear that you were not telling the truth about the original request redactions of SR032 being “out of scope” (it was definitely in scope) and then attempted to continue that untruth in SR044, I also don’t trust that you are telling the truth about the remaining redactions. Hence I am also challenging those via the ombudsman. So far the only redactions I accept as likely valid under the act are some names of natural persons for their privacy reasons.
Yours sincerely,
M Bell
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