Dear R Jones,
 
Official information request for the cost of City Rail Link. 
I refer to your official information request dated the 3rd of May 2023 in
relation to Cost of City Rail Link on Day 1.

We have transferred your request to City rail link, as they retain the
information that you are seeking for.

The information to which your request relates is not held by us but is
believed to be held by City rail link. In these circumstances, we are
required by section 12 of the LGOIMA to transfer your request.

You will hear further from City rail link concerning your request.

Nga mihi,

Maria | Customer Care Coordinator 
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Kia ora R Jones,

I am writing to you regarding the recent transfer of your request to City
Rail Link Ltd for Day 1 costs. City Rail Link have subsequently informed
us that your request needs to be answered by specialists within Auckland
Transport (AT) and has now been transferred back to AT to answer.

We apologise for the confusion caused. 

We hope to respond to your request as soon as possible, but not later than
the 31^st of May 2023, which is 20 working days after the day your request
was originally received by AT. If we aren’t able to respond to your
request by then, we will notify you of an extension of that timeframe.

Your case is being managed by Varsha, who is one of our LGOIMA Business
partners. If you have any further queries, you can contact the team on
(09) 355 3553 during business hours, quoting Local Government Official
Information request number CAS-725856-Y3K4F5.

Ngâ mihi,

Peter | Customer Care Coordinator
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Kia ora R, 

 

I’m the LGOIMA Business Partner who’s looking into your case

 

My name is Varsha and I’m a LGOIMA Business Partner at Auckland Transport.

 

I’m responsible for looking into your request about the City Rail Link.
Can you please specify what kind of costs you are wanting? 

 

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subject line as it is. We’ll make sure this information is added to your
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From: R Jones <[FOI #22669 email]> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:55 PM
To: AT Official Information (AT) <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link

Dear Auckland Transport,
Can I please have a list (i.e. broken down by the different components) of
Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link? Please state if they’re final costs or
possibly subject to revision?
Yours faithfully,
R Jones
 

 

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Good morning R Jones, 
 
Thanks for the below. 
 
I forwarded your email to our SME and they've requested for further
information. Please see below. 
 
Does R Jones want the costs from now or from when the project was first
conceived? Or do they want the costs that are occurring on Day 1? Does R
Jones want these costs:

o Building new CRL stations including the Britomart Station upgrade
o Building the CRL tunnel
o New trains
o New staff
o Staff training
o Wayfinding
o Staff costs for planning for Day 1
o Marketing to promote the new train services
o Customer information i.e. developing new timetables and the costs to
print them.

 And possibly these associated projects:

o Adjustments to bus routes. Planning them and any associated increase
or decrease in operating them.
o Other station upgrades
o Level crossing removals
o Improvements to streetscapes around the stations
o New bus stops at stations.

I don’t know if these are all the costs. There are a lot of costs
associated with CRL that may or may not be considered “Day 1”costs.

o Adjustments to bus routes. Planning them and any associated increase
or decrease in operating them.
o Other station upgrades
o Level crossing removals
o Improvements to streetscapes around the stations
o New bus stops at stations.

 
Any additional information will be very helpful in our response to ensure
you get the information you are seeking. 
 
Thanks,
Varsha 
 
 
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Kia ora R Jones

 

Thank you for your request for information dated 3 May 2023 about day 1
costs with City Rail Link. 

The LGOIMA requires that we let you know our decision on your request no
later than 20 working days after the day we received your request.
Unfortunately, it won’t be possible to meet that time limit and we are
therefore letting you know of an extension, under section 14(1)(a) of the
LGOIMA, of the time to make our decision, to 9 June 2023. 

This extension is necessary because the request is for a large quantity of
information, therefore, a proper response cannot reasonably be made within
the original time limit.

You are able to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of this
decision. Information about how to make a complaint is available at
[1]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or freephone 0800 802 602.

 

Ngā mihi

Varsha 

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Auckland Transport

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Dear AT Official Information (AT),

Who or what is your SME?

The costs requested are the costs of everything that is required in order to be able to operate the train services that AT want to operate on “Day 1”. For example, the term “Day 1” was used in an AT presentation to Auckland Council’s Transport & Infrastructure Committee on the 1st December 2022. In this presentation there was an expected level of service, for example 16 trains per hour in each direction through Britomart in the peak. If the expected level of service has changed since this presentation please state this in the answer.

The costs will be those already incurred (e.g. the cost of the tunnel that Auckland Council built from the western end of Britomart station), from now or expected future costs. The request is not for out of date costings on items where a revised or updated cost is provided. Almost all of the costs listed in your message to me of the 22/5/23 are likely to be “Day 1” costs.

From perusing publicly available documents I found the following costs that are likely to be “Day 1:
• The costs of the tunnels and everything that goes with them so a “Day 1” rail service can be operated.
• The costs of the new stations and any changes to existing stations. This includes everything that is needed in a station so a “Day 1” rail service can be operated, including pedestrian & other accesses to the stations.
• Centralised station management & control systems.
• IT systems
• Electronic train control/protection & signalling
• Integrated Rail Control Centre
• Testing & training
• Extra Electric units for the “Day 1” service. Stabling for these units.
• Level crossing removal.
• Electric power supply, extra overhead lines & their support structures, etc. I saw mention of a western power feed so this is likely included.
• Rail Network Rebuild
• The Wiri to Quay Park upgrade
I suspect this list is not exhaustive as maybe some items have yet to be publicly announced? Therefore my request is not limited to these items.

Yours sincerely,

R Jones

 

From: R Jones <[FOI #22669 email]> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:55 PM
To: AT Official Information (AT) <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link
Dear Auckland Transport,
Can I please have a list (i.e. broken down by the different components) of
Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link? Please state if they’re final costs or
possibly subject to revision?
Yours faithfully,
R Jones
 

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Kia ora R Jones, 
 
Thank you for your email and my apologies for the delay in getting back to
you. I wanted to ensure I had discussed your email with the team
involved. 
 
SME is a term we use which refers to Subject Matter Expert, I'm sorry I
should've been clearer in my email. 
 
Your request in the email below is still considered a substantial amount
of information, it involves more than 10-12 projects and what is referred
to as "day 1" is very subjective. For example, day 1 could refer to a
project that hasn't started yet, so we wouldn't be able to give you that
information. 
 
Can you please refine your request further, is there something more
specific that you are seeking? If you are unable to refine your request we
are inclined to refuse your request under section 17(f) of the LGOIMA due
to substantial collation.  
 
 
As we are still unable to provide you with a decision by 9 June 2023 we
are letting you know of an extension of the time to make our decision, to
27 June 2023. This extension is necessary because consultations with you
is necessary to make a decision on your request. 
 
Kind regards,
Varsha 
LGOIMA Business Partner
 
 

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Kia ora R Jones, 
 
I'm following up regarding my email below. 
 
Kind regards,
Varsha 
LGOIMA Business Partner 
 
 

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Kia ora R Jones

Thank you for refining your request. Unfortunately, your refined request
is still asking for a large volume of information. therefore we are
extending our decision under section 14(1)(a) of the LGOIMA to 7 July
2023.  . We are still working through a large amount of information and
meeting the original time would unreasonably interfere with the operations
of Auckland Transport. 

We are therefore extending our decision again under section 14(1)(a) of
the LGOIMA.

I can however provide you with a response asking about level crossing
removal. Auckland Transport does not have this information yet, therefore
this part of your request is refused under section 17(e) of the LGOIMA. 

If you need to provide us with more information relevant to your request
or you have any questions, simply reply to this email leaving the subject
line as it is. We’ll make sure this information is added to your case.

Ngā mihi
Varsha 
LGOIMA Business Partner 

 

Auckland Transport

20 Viaduct Harbour Avenue, Auckland 1010

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  • The costs of the new stations and any changes to existing stations that are not part of the cost that City Rail Link Limited has announced for their part of the project. This includes everything that is needed in a station so a “Day 1” rail service can be operated, including pedestrian & other accesses to the stations.

    • Centralised station management & control systems.
    • IT systems
    • Electronic train control/protection & signalling
    • Integrated Rail Control Centre
    • Testing & training
    • Extra electric units for the “Day 1” service. Stabling for these
units.
    • Level crossing removal. 
    • Electric power supply, extra overhead lines & their support
structures, etc. I saw mention of a western power feed so this is
included.
 

If NZTA funding applications exist for any of these items can I please have a copy of them?

 Thanks,

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Kia ora R Jones,

 

Thank you for your patience and I apologise for the time it has taken as
we had to work through your request which involved a large volume of
information and various internal consultations.

 

There are some questions that Auckland Transport does not hold the
information to.  We believe this information is held by CRL and Kiwirail,
therefore under section 12 of the LGOIMA we are obliged to transfer the
following questions to them.

 

CRLL

    • Centralised station management & control systems.

    • IT systems

    • Electronic train control/protection & signalling

    • Electric power supply, extra overhead lines & their support structures, etc. I saw mention of a western power feed so this is included.

 

Kiwirail

    • Integrated Rail Control Centre

    • Electric power supply, extra overhead lines & their support
structures, etc. I saw mention of a western power feed so this is
included.

 

Both agencies will respond to you directly with the information.

 

Auckland Transport will provide you with a decision regarding the
remainder of your request by 7 July 2023, or sooner.  

 

Kind regards,

 

Varsha
LGOIMA Business Partner
Auckland Transport

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Kia ora R Jones

 

I’ve attached the official information you asked for

On 3/05/2023 you asked for the costs of new stations and any changes to
existing stations that are not part of the City Rail Link Limited project

 

Thank you for your patience with this request. I’ve attached a response
from Christian Messelyn, who is our Group Manager for Public Transport
Development. 

 

Should you believe that we have not dealt with your request appropriately,
you are able to make a complaint to the Office of the Ombudsman in
accordance with section 27(3) of the LGOIMA Act and seek an investigation
and review in regard to this matter.

 

You can contact the Ombudsman at [1]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or
freephone 0800 802 602.

 
Ngā mihi
Varsha 
LGOIMA Business Partner 

 

Auckland Transport

20 Viaduct Harbour Avenue, Auckland 1010

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Dear Mr Jones,

 

Please see attached our response to the Official Information Act request
transferred to CRL Ltd on 28 June 2023.

 

Ngā mihi

 

City Rail Link Limited

Level 2, 25 Teed Street, Newmarket, 1023 Auckland

PO Box 9681, Newmarket, 1149 Auckland

 

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Kia ora R 

 

On 7/07/2023 you asked for further information. 

 

Please see response below from our Public Transport Development team. 

Thank you for your response and the information provided. I note that
there has been no response on the costs of the new stations and any
changes to existing stations that are not part of the cost that City Rail
Link Limited has announced for their part of the project. Can I please
have a response on this question?

The new stations (Mangawhau (Mt Eden), Karang-a-hape and Te ai Horotiu (Aotea) are being delivered by City Rail Link Ltd (CRLL). This query should be transferred to them. The same applies for the necessary modifications to Britomart Station to enable it to function as a through station.

In terms of modifications to existing stations that are not part of the CRL, a third platform and supporting infrastructure has been constructed at Otahuhu. Funding has been approved for a third platform at Henderson, which is currently in the design phase. Despite not being part of the CRL, these works are funded through CRLL as they are required to enable Day 1 operations. This query should therefore be transferred to CRLL as well.

The Third Main (Wiri to Quay Park) project is being delivered by Kiwirail but is required to enable the CRL Day 1 timetable. This includes the third platform face at Middlemore Station, also delivered by Kiwirail. This part of the query should be directed to Kiwirail.

The Drury Stations Project is not part of the CRL Day 1 scope.

Can you please confirm that the 23 EMUs mentioned in the letter are the only ones that are going to be ordered and/or funded before CRL opens?

The current funded order is for 23.  We have an option to procure up to 5 more under the existing contract.  There is no funding or approvals in place for this option to be exercised at present.   Auckland Transport continues to monitor demand post COVID.  If demand growth indicates more units might be required around the time of CRL opening, then a business case process would be followed to seek approval to procure more.

The Auckland Rail Programme Business Case currently in development will
help to inform future fleet requirements and timing.
 
We are not aware of any specific investment in addition to that covered by
CRL and other projects, for example:

* Southern Stations – KiwiRail NZUP project
* Henderson – included in CRL costs
* Middlemore – affected by the Wiri to Quay Park (3^rd Main) project and
included in that cost covered by KiwiRail
* Pedestrian crossings – covered by the Ped LX removal project.
* Wayfinding updates – Covered under existing CRL budgets.

Regarding Power Feed. 
No, the western power feed is not within CRLL’s scope.  It is being
delivered by KiwiRail under the Rail Network Investment Programme.  If you
are seeking a cost estimate for this then AT does not hold this
information and believes this is held by KiwiRail.

You have transferred my request relating to "Centralised station management & control systems, IT systems, Electronic train control/protection & signalling, Electric power supply, extra overhead lines & their support structures, etc. I saw mention of a western power feed so this is included." to City Rail Link Ltd. Does their jurisdiction extend to areas outside the tunnel they're building? My question relates to the whole of the Auckland suburban rail network from Swanson in the west to Pukekohe in the south.

In general, CRLL are delivering all modifications to the wider network to enable the CRL timetable. This includes works at Newmarket Junction, The Strand, Otahuhu and Henderson. There are however some exceptions to this, with works being delivered independent of CRLL. The Western Power Feed is an example – being delivered by Kiwirail through the Rail Network Investment Programme.

Should you believe that we have not dealt with your request appropriately,
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You can contact the Ombudsman at [1]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or
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Ngā mihi

Varsha 

LGOIMA Business Partner 

 

Auckland Transport

20 Viaduct Harbour Avenue, Auckland 1010

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From: R Jones <[3][FOI #22669 email]>;
Received: Fri Jul 07 2023 14:38:25 GMT+1200 (New Zealand Standard Time)
To: [4][email address]
<[5]at[Auckland Transport request email]>; LGOIMA
<[6]at[Auckland Transport request email]>;
Subject: Re: Here’s the official information you asked for (case number
CAS-725856-Y3K4F5 ) CRM:0054m
Dear AT Official Information (AT), Thank you for your response and the
information provided. I note that there has been no response on the costs
of the new stations and any changes to existing stations that are not part
of the cost that City

Dear AT Official Information (AT),

 

Thank you for your response and the information provided. I note that there has been no response on the costs of the new stations and any changes to existing stations that are not part of the cost that City Rail Link Limited has announced for their part of the project. Can I please have a response on this question?

 

Can you please confirm that the 23 EMUs mentioned in the letter are the only ones that are going to be ordered and/or funded before CRL opens?

 

You have transferred my request relating to "Centralised station management & control systems, IT systems, Electronic train control/protection & signalling, Electric power supply, extra overhead lines & their support structures, etc. I saw mention of a western power feed so this is included." to City Rail Link Ltd. Does their jurisdiction extend to areas outside the tunnel they're building? My question relates to the whole of the Auckland suburban rail network from Swanson in the west to Pukekohe in the south.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

R Jones

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