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Community Discussion Sessions

Malcolm Lock made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police

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From: Malcolm Lock

Dear New Zealand Police,

Please supply attendance figures for each of the Arms Act Service Delivery Group Community Discussion Sessions held at the following locations on the specified dates below

Wellington Friday 1 June
New Plymouth Tuesday 5 June
Taupo Wednesday 6 June
Hastings Wednesday 6 June
Palmerston North Thursday 7 June
Rotorua Monday 11 June
Tauranga Tuesday 12 June
Manukau Tuesday 12 June
Whangarei Wednesday 13 June
Gisborne Thursday 14 June
Greymouth Monday 18 June
Christchurch Tuesday 19 June
Timaru Wednesday 20 June
Hamilton Thursday 21 June
Nelson Monday 25 June
Blenheim Tuesday 26 June
Invercargill Thursday 28 June
Dunedin Friday 29 June

Yours faithfully,

Malcolm Lock

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From: TALAGI, Salote
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Dear Mr Lock

 

I refer to your Official Information Request of 30 June 2018 for the
following information, received by Police:

 

Please supply attendance figures for each of the Arms Act Service Delivery
Group Community Discussion Sessions held at the following locations on the
specified dates  below

 

Wellington         Friday 1 June

New Plymouth        Tuesday 5 June

Taupo                Wednesday 6 June

Hastings                Wednesday 6 June

Palmerston North    Thursday 7 June

Rotorua                Monday 11 June

Tauranga                Tuesday 12 June

Manukau                Tuesday 12 June

Whangarei       Wednesday 13 June

Gisborne               Thursday 14 June

Greymouth       Monday 18 June

Christchurch       Tuesday 19 June

Timaru               Wednesday 20 June

Hamilton               Thursday 21 June

Nelson               Monday 25 June

Blenheim               Tuesday 26 June

Invercargill       Thursday 28 June

Dunedin               Friday 29 June

 

Your request is being actioned pursuant to the Official Information Act
1982.

 

 

Kind regards

 

Salote Talagi

Ministerial Services

 

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From: Malcolm Lock <[8][FOI #8162 email]>
Date: 30/06/2018 11:14AM
Subject: Official Information request - Community Discussion Sessions

Dear New Zealand Police,

Please supply attendance figures for each of the Arms Act Service Delivery
Group Community Discussion Sessions held at the following locations on the
specified dates  below

Wellington         Friday 1 June
New Plymouth        Tuesday 5 June
  Taupo                Wednesday 6 June
  Hastings                Wednesday 6 June
  Palmerston North    Thursday 7 June
Rotorua                Monday 11 June
  Tauranga                Tuesday 12 June
  Manukau                Tuesday 12 June
  Whangarei       Wednesday 13 June
Gisborne               Thursday 14 June
  Greymouth       Monday 18 June
Christchurch       Tuesday 19 June
Timaru               Wednesday 20 June
  Hamilton               Thursday 21 June
  Nelson               Monday 25 June
  Blenheim               Tuesday 26 June
  Invercargill       Thursday 28 June
Dunedin               Friday 29 June

Yours faithfully,

Malcolm Lock

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Dear Mr Lock

 

I have been asked to let you know that Police requires an extension of
time in which to respond to your request for attendence figures for each
of the Arms Act service Delivery group Commuinity Discussion Sessions.

This extension is  pursuant to section 15A(1) of the Official Information
Act 1982, because the request necessitates a search through a large
quantity of information and consultations such that a proper response to
the request cannot reasonably be made within the original time limit.

                                                                                           

Police require until 27 August 2018 to provide a substantive response to
your request. 

 

You have the right to ask the Office of the Ombudsman to review this
extension.

 

 

Kind regards

 

Holly Foxwell

Ministerial Services Officer

Ministerial Services

 

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From: Malcolm Lock

Dear FOXWELL, Holly,

I fail to see how you require and extension of time pursuant to section 15A(1) of the Official Information Act 1982, because the request necessitates a search through a large quantity of information and consultations such that a proper response to the request cannot reasonably be made within the original time limit.

These community consultations were conducted over a period of 28 days during June 2018, finishing on the 29th June. Less than one month ago. In total there were only 18 meetings.

The police have already indicated via their website that more than 500 firearms community members were met during the road shows, and 200 staff.
http://www.police.govt.nz/advice/firearm...

So an extension of time to gather 18 figures from events that concluded less than a month ago seems ridiculous bearing in mind that the police already know it was more than 500.

To know this figure indicates that head counts were conducted at each event. It certainly was at the event I attended.

There is no large quantity of information to go through to seek the attendance numbers.

There should be no reason to consult as the figures are factual and therefore no consultation is required.

A proper response simply requires a figure to be recorded against each of the events held, nothing more nothing less.

Please supply this information within 5 working days of today's date.

Yours sincerely,

Malcolm Lock

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Dear Mr Lock

 

Please find attached a response to your request of 30 June 2018.  Our
sincere apologies for the delay in response.

 

 

Kind regards

 

Salote Talagi

Ministerial Services

 

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From: Malcolm Lock

Dear TALAGI, Salote,

Just for your information, there was NO meeting in Napier, it was held at the Cornwall Cricket Club, Cornwall Park, Roberts Street, HASTINGS.

A bit of fact checking and accuracy would be most helpful in future OIA requests

Yours sincerely,

Malcolm Lock

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From: Malcolm Lock

Dear TALAGI, Salote,

Also you stated that I missed Dunedin and you have been most helpful in adding this information.

If you actually read the request Dunedin is listed right from the beginning.

I get many replies from the police where it is obvious that the request has not been read or fully understood. Is it possible to hold a training course for staff to have some consistency around replying to OIA requests, it might just save a lot of requests being sent to the Ombudsman's office

Yours sincerely,

Malcolm Lock

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